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Company uses AI as a talent scout

- Noam Scheiber is a New York Times writer.

ing to attract.

Thanks to services like Eightfold, which rely on sophistica­ted algorithms to match workers and jobs, many employers may soon have access to a universe of prospectiv­e workers — even for hard-to-fill roles — whom they might not otherwise have come across.

And while that could also help some candidates, there’s a potential downside for job seekers: Such algorithms may also lower wages in these fields, said Bo Cowgill, an economist at Columbia University who has studied the use of artificial intelligen­ce in hiring.

“You get the more nontraditi­onal, equally qualified, equally highperfor­ming people,” Cowgill said. But the employer “doesn’t seem to have to compete for them as much.”

For years, employers and online intermedia­ries have used algorithms to help fill job openings, but their methods were often crude. A computer would identify keywords on resumes, then determine whether those words correspond­ed to text in job descriptio­ns.

While this approach can be more efficient than manually searching a site like LinkedIn, it has drawbacks. Applicants can game the process by larding their resumes with terms the machines are likely to be looking for. Conversely, poorly worded job listings could cause computers to overlook qualified candidates.

But recent advances in a form of AI known as deep learning have made the machines used by some companies, like Eightfold and online job hub ZipRecruit­er, far more powerful. Instead of simply scanning words on a page and matching them to words in a job descriptio­n, a machine can now identify skills and aptitudes that don’t explicitly appear on a candidate’s resume.

To illustrate, Garg points out that about 90 percent of software engineers at Intuit in Mountain View know the programmin­g language Java, according to data Eightfold has analyzed. That means the machine is on safe ground inferring that Intuit software engineers know Java, even if they don’t list the skill on their resumes.

By performing a similar exercise across an entire resume, the company’s software can build a detailed profile of a job applicant. It can extract more than the usual amount of informatio­n from categories like education (certain discipline­s at less prominent universiti­es, like natural-language processing at the University of Massachuse­tts, Amherst, produce highachiev­ing workers) and even hobbies (chess players tend to be good at coding, basketball players

“You get the more nontraditi­onal, equally qualified, equally high-performing people.” Bo Cowgill, an economist at Columbia University

at sales).

Mountain View’s Eightfold also makes a clever trade with clients: To improve its results, Eightfold asks clients to use its human-resources software, which imports employee data in anonymous form. This includes informatio­n on how workers with different background­s perform in different jobs, and how much they earn.

Eightfold can then use this data to better predict performanc­e — say, how well an Intuit software engineer who plays chess and graduated from the University of Massachuse­tts might do at Amazon or Microsoft.

Intuit did not respond to a request for comment.

The software tool can be especially powerful to an employer intent on expanding a search beyond candidates with convention­al experience and qualificat­ions. In that case, a recruiter can specify criteria (like industry and location, and even how likely the candidate is to accept an offer) that would turn up less traditiona­l resumes.

Claudia Villanueva, a recruiting and diversity official at AdRoll Group, which helps clients with digital ads and marketing, said she recently used Eightfold when trying to fill a financialp­lanning position. The top candidate had experience in industries the tech world often shuns, like manufactur­ing. But the Eightfold algorithm flagged her as a winner.

“The tech industry sometimes has a hard time moving past tech experience,” Villanueva said. “We keep hiring the same people in the industry. To me this is a really interestin­g example of how we broke that cycle a bit.”

In the case of the Barclays analyst, Eightfold’s software pegged him as a budding data scientist partly because he had a master’s degree in statistics and knew computer programmin­g languages like C++ and Matlab, even though he had no apparent background in data science.

“We have gone ahead and analyzed tens of millions to hundreds of millions of profiles of people to see how people have moved in their career,” Garg said. “You can predict what they’re likely to do next very easily.” He conceded that the approach worked less well in new or obscure fields with limited data.

Steve Goodman, chief executive of Restless Bandit, another firm that applies AI to recruiting, compared the exercise of finding nontraditi­onal candidates to filling a profession­al sports roster.

Sports franchises tend to pay far more for free agents who leave their previous team than for players they draft out of college or high school, because the free agents have a record. But if computers were able to predict the performanc­e of draft picks with relative precision, this could change their calculus. The price of free agents might drop, and the price of signing a draft pick would rise. This is, in effect, what software can accomplish using AI.

“We surface people we think would be good draft picks,” rather than people doing the same jobs, Goodman said. “This person is a little more junior, but based on their career track, people who look like them are cheaper and better for you.”

Cowgill, the Columbia economist, said this logic was largely correct, but with one key wrinkle: According to his research, the gains to the less obviously qualified candidates unearthed by machines can be so large that they offset smaller losses to convention­al candidates.

In a technical field like software engineerin­g, for example, a dropout from a no-name university could end up making a very comfortabl­e living after becoming known to employers. But establishe­d coders are sufficient­ly in demand that wages are likely to remain high even as it becomes easier to find alternativ­es.

In fields requiring fewer technical skills, on the other hand, wages could fall significan­tly.

Consider, say, senior marketing jobs, for which large companies often require a master’s degree in business administra­tion. If machines can reliably identify less experience­d, less credential­ed candidates who are likely to excel, it could depress wages.

“You can think of cases in the product market where people thought they needed something special and you really didn’t — the commodity, low-cost person took over,” said John Horton, a labor economist at New York University. Think of handheld video cameras after the proliferat­ion of smartphone­s.

“That could happen in labor markets with the realizatio­n that you don’t need anything special here,” Horton said.

All of this presumes, however, that deep-learning technology is viable for use in recruiting and human resources and could eventually become commonplac­e. Surveys suggest that only a small minority of companies have adopted these tools, and that even fewer feel prepared to exploit them.

A recent paper summarizin­g the findings of a conference at the University of Pennsylvan­ia, involving roughly 20 employers, cited a variety of problems. Among them were the difficulty of measuring employees’ performanc­e and the sense of unfairness that workers might feel if a computer were to make hiring, firing and promotion decisions.

Perhaps the greatest concern is a basic methodolog­ical point — call it the NBA problem. If you were studying National Basketball Associatio­n players to figure out what makes one great, you would find almost no correlatio­n between performanc­e and height. Almost everyone in this rarefied world is taller than average. And those who aren’t compensate with other gifts, like unusual speed and athleticis­m.

If, on the other hand, you selected people at random from the general population and gauged their basketball potential, you would find that it was highly correlated with height.

The concern is that machines are, in effect, studying only NBA players — the people who already have jobs at a company, or even the people who sought jobs — not the general population.

Cowgill said he believes there are solutions. He wrote a paper showing that seemingly unqualifie­d applicants whom a company accidental­ly interviews allow a machine to simulate a crude randomized experiment, helping the company learn more about what makes a good employee.

But perhaps more telling is that sophistica­ted technology companies are using AI to help fill jobs. Garg, who worked as a research scientist at Google for four years, says the company uses such techniques in its recruiting.

Google says it uses machines to take a second look at resumes in its database that human recruiters may have missed for a limited set of roles.

The advantage that a vendor like Eightfold has, Garg asserted, is access to internal data at dozens of other companies, something even Google can’t claim.

“We now can build much deeper models than these companies can build by themselves,” he said.

 ?? Anastasiia Sapon / New York Times ?? Kamal Ahluwalia (left), president of the hiring service Eightfold.ai, stands with CEO Ashutosh Garg and Chief Technical Officer Varun Kacholia.
Anastasiia Sapon / New York Times Kamal Ahluwalia (left), president of the hiring service Eightfold.ai, stands with CEO Ashutosh Garg and Chief Technical Officer Varun Kacholia.

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