San Francisco Chronicle

Hello from Francis, in praise of holiness

- LEAH GARCHIK Leah Garchik is open for business in San Francisco, 415-777-8426. Email: lgarchik@ sfchronicl­e.com Twitter: @leahgarchi­k

The story — which has no Bay Area connection — was passed along by a friend (Bruce Gerstman) of its teller, through a layer of Facebook, finally through Carol Pogash of Berkeley, who called it to The Chronicle’s attention. Finally, I talked about it firsthand with Matias Verna, a psychoanal­yst who lives in Manhattan. His father, breast cancer surgeon/specialist Mario Verna, had died on Dec. 14.

Mario Verna was born in Buenos Aires in 1937, and he immigrated to the United States once as a young man, and then in 1976 when a military dictatorsh­ip was running Argentina. “As a kid, he was in a Catholic Action youth group,” said Matias Verna. “We used to hear a lot about this group growing up because a lot of his friends were from this group. Then when Francis became pope in 2013, my dad started telling us that he was one of the kids in that group. It seemed believable, but at the same time my dad has always been known for regaling people with his stories … and he was already starting to struggle with dementia . ...

“At one pont he mentioned that he would drink maté with Jorge (Bergoglio).” In the last few years, “my dad became increasing­ly impaired with his dementia,” said Matias, “and in the past few months, it really deteriorat­ed rapidly. When he died” — on Monday, Dec. 3 — “my brother and I were starting to make phone calls.” They split up the list of people who needed to be called, and then “He said, kind of chuckling, ‘we have to call the pope.’ ... I just instinctiv­ely responded, ‘Yeah, I’ll take care of that … seriously, I will take care of that.’ ”

At home later that day, “I composed a one-page fax message. because I had learned, just looking it up online, that that’s the way to get in touch with the pope, by fax. Email is no good and he doesn’t respond to direct messages on Twitter.”

Matias researched fax numbers and called some of them “to see which calls reached a fax machine.” When he found one he thought would work, he sent the pope a short letter to say his father had died, that he thought they’d been schoolmate­s. When he sent his brothers copies of the fax, one of them berated him. “You wrote ‘Dear Pope,’ what is the matter with you? You’re supposed to write Supreme Pontiff or …

“I said I understood that this guy is kind of a guy’s guy, and I just wanted to make it personal. Later on I told my wife, ‘Oh, I faxed the pope by the way.’ She glanced up from her laptop and nodded.”

He turned up the ringer on his phone, and left it on all night, “just in case. The next morning I am driving to the nursing home, to where my father had been, to clean up the room.”

The phone rang, the caller identified as “unknown.” With the fax, “on my mind, I said, ‘Hello,’ and I heard his voice and recognized it immediatel­y.” The conversati­on was in Spanish, which was Matias’ first language.

“‘Are you from the Verna family?’ the Pope asked. ‘I received your message. Of course I remember El Flaco (the skinny guy) well.’ And then he paused and said, ‘We are at that age when we’re starting to get called back.’

“So I did my best to reconstruc­t the conversati­on in my head, and I wrote it down immediatel­y. The conversati­on consisted of me profusely thanking him, and the rest of the conversati­on on his part was ‘I will pray for your father at tomorrow’s Mass.’ ... I remember thanking him. And I remembered that Paul had said I was supposed to call him Holiest Father. So I said, ‘Holiest Father. I don’t know how to thank you for this.’ Then we said our goodbyes and I sat in my car crying and shaking.”

Had Matias Vernas been a religious man? No, not really, he said. His father had been religious in his youth, but “that was about it.” He sent along his account of the conversati­on with Pope Francis, as remembered right afterward.

My favorite part was the greeting: Is this the Verna family? asked the caller from Rome. “Soy el Papa Francisco.”

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