San Francisco Chronicle

Retail therapy: Customers relay fears to Zappos

- By Jenny Gross

When Rose Wang called the customer service line at Zappos, all she wanted was a quick confirmati­on that a gift receipt was included with the hot pink Crocs she had ordered for her mother for Mother’s Day.

But a few minutes into the call, Wang, 33, realized something felt different.

After helping her with the gift receipt, the customer service representa­tive, who was in Las Vegas, started making small talk. In a calming voice that reminded Wang of a grandmothe­r, the representa­tive told her that she, too, found it nearly impossible to buy gifts for her mother.

Amid the isolation of the coronaviru­s pandemic, Wang was willing — eager, actually — to chat. The two women ended up discussing motherdaug­hter relationsh­ips, a favorite Brazilian restaurant in Las Vegas and a girls’ trip to Hawaii.

The conversati­on lasted nearly 45 minutes.

“To hear someone on the West Coast commiserat­e with me and talk about their plans and what they wanted to do after the quarantine — it felt very connecting,” Wang, who lives in New York, said.

Customer service representa­tives, even on the best of days, typically field a lot of complaints — missing deliveries, dissatisfi­ed customers and other gripes. But these days, with people grappling with financial insecurity, separation from their friends and family, and uncertaint­y, the tone has changed. Rather than viewing calls as a form of drudgery, some people seem to relish having a person on the other end of the line to talk with.

Sensing the shifting need, and wanting to make use of customer service representa­tives whose call volume was down, Zappos, the online merchant best known for its shoes, in April revamped its customer service line: People could call just to chat — about their future travel plans, Netflix shows or anything on their minds.

“Sure, we take orders and process returns, but we’re also great listeners,” Zappos said in a statement on its website. “Searching for flour to try that homemade bread recipe? We’re happy to call around and find grocery stores stocked with what you need.”

With plunging retail sales, businesses are trying new ways to retain customers.

Brian Kalma, one of the Zappos employees who came up with the idea for the revamped customer service line, said the company’s use of Holacracy, a selfmanage­ment system in which there are no managers and employees define their own jobs, had helped to create an environmen­t where the idea could come to life.

Kalma said Zappos, which was acquired by Amazon in 2009 but runs independen­tly, was considerin­g adding to its 400person customer service team to keep the new service line running longer.

“We’re seeing signals that this is something we may want to maintain as the world reopens,” he said. Even before the new service line officially started, Zappos had said its customer service representa­tives were available just to chat. One call, several years ago, lasted nearly 11 hours, the company said.

People have called to have conversati­ons about their life stories. Single parents at home with small children have called, grateful to speak with another adult. Teenagers have called asking for homework help.

The most common questions, Kalma said, are where to find a nearby medical center or how to find household supplies that are out of stock at local stores.

But the new line is good for more than helping to stock toilet paper.

In midApril, around the time when coronaviru­s patients were filling New York City hospitals and equipment was in short supply, David Putrino, the director of rehabilita­tion innovation for the Mount Sinai Health System, reached out to Zappos looking for pulse oximeters, devices that indicate blood oxygen level and heart rate.

The devices were sold out or on backorder everywhere he looked. To his amazement, Zappos was able to locate the devices. Within days, the company had shipped 500 oximeters to Mount Sinai — and later donated an additional 50.

“It was, like, unbelievab­le from our perspectiv­e,” he said.

Crystal Mouzon, the Zappos customer service representa­tive who spoke with Wang, the woman in New York, said customers regularly told her that her voice was soothing.

“I bring ’em on in,” Mouzon, 60, said. “If they have an anxiety, I just calm them down, and we just talk about anything.” She said she chatted with callers as if they were her friends.

“We laughed and talked about so much,” Mouzon said of her conversati­on with Wang. “Every time she was going to hang up, she would ask me something else, and then we laughed and talked about that.”

 ?? Courtesy Crystal Mouzon ?? Crystal Mouzon, left, is a Zappos customer service agent who talked with Rose Wang, right, for 45 minutes during a recent call. The company is encouragin­g its agents to chat with people to help calm their anxiety.
Courtesy Crystal Mouzon Crystal Mouzon, left, is a Zappos customer service agent who talked with Rose Wang, right, for 45 minutes during a recent call. The company is encouragin­g its agents to chat with people to help calm their anxiety.
 ?? Brittainy Newman / New York Times 2017 ??
Brittainy Newman / New York Times 2017

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