Santa Fe New Mexican

Relations between male, female colleagues still uneasy

- By Claire Cain Miller

Men and women still don’t seem to have figured out how to work or socialize together. For many, according to a new Morning Consult poll conducted for The New York Times, it is better simply to avoid each other.

Many men and women are wary of a range of one-on-one situations, the poll found. Around one-quarter think private work meetings with colleagues of the opposite sex are inappropri­ate. Nearly two-thirds say people should take extra caution around members of the opposite sex at work. A majority of women, and nearly half of men, say it’s unacceptab­le to have dinner or drinks alone with someone of the opposite sex other than their spouse.

The results show the extent to which sex is an implicit part of our interactio­ns. They also explain in part why women still don’t have the same opportunit­ies as men. They are treated differentl­y not just on the golf course or in the boardroom, but in daily episodes large and small, at work and in their social lives.

Further, the poll results provide societal context for Vice President Mike Pence’s comment — made in 2002 and resurfaced in a recent profile — that he doesn’t eat alone with any woman other than his wife.

Attitudes reflect a work world shadowed by sexual harassment. In recent news about Uber and Fox News, women see cautionary tales about being alone with men.

In interviews, people described a cultural divide. Some said their social lives and careers depended on such solo meetings. Others described caution around people of the opposite sex, and some depicted the workplace as a fraught atmosphere in which they feared harassment, or being accused of it. “When a man and a woman are left alone, outside parties can insinuate about what’s really going on,” said Christophe­r Mauldin, a constructi­on worker in Rialto, Calif. “Sometimes false accusation­s create irreversib­le damages to reputation­s.”

He said he avoids any solo interactio­ns with women, including dining or driving, as does his girlfriend with other men. When he needs to meet with women at work or his church, he makes sure doors are left open and another person is present. Others described similar tactics, including using conference rooms with glass walls and avoiding alcohol with colleagues. “Temptation is always a factor,” said Mauldin, 29.

One reason women stall profession­ally, research shows, is that people have a tendency to hire, promote and mentor people like themselves. When men avoid solo interactio­ns with women — a catch-up lunch or late night finishing a project — it puts women at a disadvanta­ge. “If I couldn’t meet with my boss one on one, I don’t get that face time to show what I can do to get that next promotion,” said Shannon Healy, 31, a property manager in Houghton, Mich.

Any rule about avoiding meetings that applied only to one sex, even if unspoken, would most likely be illegal, said Peter Rahbar, founder of the Rahbar Group for employment law. Such behavior is often cited in gender discrimina­tion lawsuits, he said.

Working with The Times, Morning Consult, a polling company, surveyed 5,300 registered voters in May. The survey did not ask about marital status or sexual orientatio­n.

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