Santa Fe New Mexican

Kelly’s Civil War remarks draw ire

Historians reject his statements rooted in ‘lost cause’ mentality

- By Philip Bump

White House Chief of Staff John Kelly was the guest for the premiere of Laura Ingraham’s new show on Fox News on Monday night. During the interview, he outlined a view of the history of the Civil War that historians described as “strange,” “highly provocativ­e,” “dangerous” and “kind of depressing.”

Kelly was asked about the decision of a church in Alexandria, Va., to remove plaques honoring George Washington and Robert E. Lee.

“I would tell you that Robert E. Lee was an honorable man,” Kelly said. “He was a man that gave up his country to fight for his state, which 150 years ago was more important than country. It was always loyalty to state first back in those days. Now it’s different today. But the lack of an ability to compromise led to the Civil War, and men and women of good faith on both sides made their stand where their conscience had them make their stand.”

“That statement could have been given by [former Confederat­e Gen.] Jubal Early in 1880,” said Stephanie McCurry, professor of history at Columbia University and author of Confederat­e Reckoning: Politics and Power in the Civil War South.

“What’s so strange about this statement is how closely it tracks or resembles the view of the Civil War that the South had finally got the nation to embrace by the early 20th century,” she said. “It’s the Jim Crow version of the causes of the Civil War. I mean, it tracks all of the major talking points of this pro-Confederat­e view of the Civil War.”

Kelly makes several points. That Lee was honorable. That fighting for state was more important than fighting for country. That a lack of compromise led to the war. That good people on both sides were fighting for conscienti­ous reasons. Both McCurry and David Blight, professor of history at Yale University and author of Race and Reunion: The Civil War in American Memory, broadly reject all of these arguments.

“This is profound ignorance, that’s what one has to say first, at least of pretty basic things about the American historical narrative,” Blight said. “I mean, it’s one thing to hear it from Trump who, let’s be honest, just really doesn’t know any history and has demonstrat­ed it over and over and over. But General Kelly has a long history in the American military.”

Blight described Kelly’s argument in similar terms as McCurry — an “old reconcilia­tionist narrative” about the Civil War that, in the last half-century or so has “just been exploded” by historical research since.

The idea that compromise might have been possible was rejected out of hand by both McCurry and Blight.

“It was not about slavery, it was about honorable men fighting for honorable causes?” McCurry said. “Well, what was the cause? … In 1861, they were very clear on what the causes of the war were. The reason there was no compromise possible was that people in the country could not agree over the wisdom of the continued and expanding enslavemen­t of millions of African-Americans.”

Kelly’s framework is “also rooted, frankly, in a ‘lost cause’ mentality that swept over American culture in the wake of the war, swept over northerner­s,” Blight said, “this idea that good and honorable men of the South were pushed aside and exploited by the ‘fanatical’ — ironically — first Republican Party.”

Blight noted that Lee wasn’t simply defending his home state of Virginia against Northern aggression.

“The best of the Lee biographie­s show that Lee was a Confederat­e nationalis­t,” Blight said. “He knew what he was fighting for.”

Both historians, though, held particular disdain for the idea that putting state over nation was the essence of the fight.

“My God, where does he get that from?” Blight asked. “That denies the very reason to be, the essential reason for the existence of the original Republican Party, which formed in the 1850s to stop the expansion of slavery and ended up developing a political ideology that threatened the South because they really were going to cordon off slavery.”

There was, however, a small silver lining.

“This Trump era ignorance and misuse of history is forcing historians — and I think this is a good thing — to use words like ‘truth’ and ‘right or wrong,’ ” Blight said. “We get very caught up in whether we can be objectiv, and that’s a real argument.“But there are some things that are just not true,” he said.

 ?? ASSOCIATED PRESS FILE PHOTO ?? White House chief of staff John Kelly told Fox News host Laura Ingraham in an interview that aired Monday that Confederat­e Gen. Robert E. Lee was ‘an honorable man.’
ASSOCIATED PRESS FILE PHOTO White House chief of staff John Kelly told Fox News host Laura Ingraham in an interview that aired Monday that Confederat­e Gen. Robert E. Lee was ‘an honorable man.’

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