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‘Fantastic Beasts’ stars: Grindelwal­d isn’t Trump

- By Ryan Pearson ASSOCIATED PRESS FILE PHOTO

LOS ANGELES — Johnny Depp’s charismati­c leader at the center of the new Fantastic Beasts sequel isn’t modeled on President Donald Trump.

But the stars of Fantastic Beasts: Crimes of Grindelwal­d, the film written by J.K. Rowling about a dark wizard who becomes a divisive leader in the magical world, tell the Associated Press that there are some similariti­es.

The film is set in the Harry Potter universe and finds Depp’s character, Gellert Grindelwal­d, seeking to gain power and divide “pureblood” wizards from humans in 1920s Paris.

“It’s shining a light, isn’t it, on things that have happened before as well?” said Callum Turner, who plays Theseus, the older brother to Eddie Redmayne’s hero main character in the film. “And how seductive and easy things can take a turn for the worse. And not just be specific to any one moment.

“That’s the question. Why are we — people being seduced in that way? What is it in the moment, in the zeitgeist, what is

that? And that’s what is interestin­g about that — that’s the similarity. Not the person. The message.”

Katherine Waterston, who plays a magical law enforcemen­t agent, says the villain crafted by the politicall­y outspoken Rowling

is more “subtle” than the real-life president.

“Every bad guy is more nuanced and subtle than Trump. He is like the most overt bad guy of all time,” she said. “But it’s amazing because she was actually writing this long before the election happened — this chapter of the story. So yeah, it’s interestin­g actually with brilliant people, if they’re paying attention to the way the world is going, they actually tend to predict the future.”

Ezra Miller plays a mysterious character named Credence Barebone, whose powers include a destructiv­e magical parasite. He says Grindelwal­d shares similariti­es to many leaders throughout history.

“I think it’s approachin­g universal themes that sure, can you look at all of the autocrats in all of history and be like, ‘Yup, they are all kind of that guy, sure,’ ” Miller said. “There’s a period where they just convince everyone that they are on their team and they’re going to get them good jobs and it’s going to be awesome.

“And that’s like how tyranny works. Like at first they convince you that they have the right to rule you. And then they arm up and get it on. It’s a universal story.”

Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwal­d, the second of five planned movies in the franchise, hits theaters in the U.S. and U.K. on Nov. 16.

 ??  ?? Johnny Depp as Gellert Grindelwal­d at the Warner Bros. panel for Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwal­d at Comic-Con Internatio­nal in San Diego. Depp’s character in the new Fantastic Beasts sequel isn’t modeled on President Donald Trump. But the stars of Crimes of Grindelwal­d, which J.K. Rowling was writing during the 2016 U.S. presidenti­al campaign, say there are some similariti­es.
Johnny Depp as Gellert Grindelwal­d at the Warner Bros. panel for Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwal­d at Comic-Con Internatio­nal in San Diego. Depp’s character in the new Fantastic Beasts sequel isn’t modeled on President Donald Trump. But the stars of Crimes of Grindelwal­d, which J.K. Rowling was writing during the 2016 U.S. presidenti­al campaign, say there are some similariti­es.

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