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Dozens listened as Trump spoke to Ukraine’s leader

- By Deb Riechmann

WASHINGTON — There were dozens of ears listening to President Donald Trump’s 30-minute phone call with the leader of Ukraine that is at the center of a House impeachmen­t inquiry, and as many eyes that saw what he said.

White House staffers, working in the secure, soundproof Situation Room in the West Wing basement, listened in and chronicled the conversati­on. National Security Council personnel edited a memo written about the call. White House lawyers, according to a government whistleblo­wer, directed that the memo be uploaded into a highly restricted classified computer network. And there were the staffers whose keystrokes on a computer made that happen.

They represent a universe of people, little known outside their vital circle of national security officials, who can either support or disavow the whistleblo­wer’s account. Their roles could well become more public as the impeachmen­t investigat­ion unfolds and Congress seeks additional witnesses.

Some staffers involved with the call still work at the White House; others have left. But what was thought to be a routine conversati­on with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy turned into anything but that, when Trump asked him to investigat­e Ukraine’s involvemen­t in the 2016 presidenti­al election and the activities of Democratic political rival Joe Biden and his son Hunter.

By the time staffers in the Situation Room got the president of Ukraine on the phone at 9:03 a.m., Trump had just finished firing off tweets claiming complete vindicatio­n from former special counsel Robert Mueller’s congressio­nal testimony the day before about the Russia investigat­ion. On the call, Trump was first to speak. He showered the 41-year-old Ukrainian, a novice politician and former comedian, with praise following his party’s victory in parliament­ary elections. Zelenskiy chatted about how he wanted to “drain the swamp” in Kyiv and how he wished the European Union would provide more financial support. He told Trump that Ukraine was ready to buy more Javelin anti-tank missiles from the United States.

The next 10 words that came out of Trump’s mouth — “I would like you to do us a favor, though” — are what triggered the House impeachmen­t inquiry that has imperiled his presidency.

Trump asked Zelenskiy to work with Trump’s personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani and Attorney General William Barr to look in to Biden and his son, who served on the board of a Ukrainian gas company. Trump says it was an innocent, “perfect” call. But some White House staffers, worried that Trump seemed to be asking Ukraine for dirt on Biden, sounded alarms. They suggested the memorandum of the call — “telcon” for short — be transferre­d into a restricted server, usually reserved for documents about covert operations.

This call, as well as others Trump has had with foreign leaders, was unusual in other ways, too. In past administra­tions, top foreign policy officials routinely briefed a president in person right before a call and provided written materials as well.

A former U.S. ambassador to Russia, Michael McFaul, worked at the NSC during the Obama administra­tion and helped write briefs to prepare for dozens of calls with Russian leaders, including Vladimir Putin.

“Judging from the content of the Trump-Zelenskiy call, Trump was not reading talking points,” McFaul said. “No one on our team ever would have prepared a call package prompting Obama to ask for a personal favor that would help him win reelection. I also doubt that Trump’s NSC staff would have written or cleared such a talking point for their boss.”

One individual with firsthand knowledge of how the Trump calls with foreign leaders are handled said the president “hates” such “prebriefs” and frequently has refused to do them. Trump doesn’t like written background materials either, preferring to handle the calls himself, often in the morning from the residence. Occasional­ly, while on the phone with foreign heads of state, Trump has handed the receiver to his daughter, Ivanka Trump, so she can talk with the leader, according to this individual.

Calls between a president and a foreign leader typically start with U.S. intelligen­ce officers detailed to the White House gathering in the Situation Room, a process that has been in place for decades, according to two people familiar with the operation in the Trump White House and past administra­tions. They spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss how Trump’s calls with foreign heads of state are handled.

During the Ukraine call, several others listened in. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and Keith Kellogg, national security adviser for Vice President Mike Pence, were on the call. It’s unclear if they were at the White House or listened in on “drop” lines, secure hookups top officials can use from outside the White House.

People privy to the call questioned whether Trump was pressuring the Ukrainian leader to investigat­e the Bidens. Trump has denied that he did and publicly released the telcon recounting what was said on the call.

He released it after a whistleblo­wer, a CIA officer, filed a complaint about the call with the intelligen­ce community’s inspector general. “In the days following the phone call, I learned from multiple U.S. officials that senior White House officials had intervened to lock down” all records of the phone call, the whistleblo­wer wrote. “This set of actions underscore­d to me that White House officials understood the gravity of what had transpired in the call.”

One of the two people familiar with how foreign leader calls are handled in the Trump White House said putting a document classified only as “secret” into a server holding very highly classified informatio­n is not against any rule, but is a means of “leak prevention.”

 ?? EVAN VUCCI/AP ?? President Donald Trump speaks Friday during a campaign rally at the Lake Charles (La.) Civic Center.
EVAN VUCCI/AP President Donald Trump speaks Friday during a campaign rally at the Lake Charles (La.) Civic Center.

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