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Ex-National Security Council official testifies to Congress

- By Michael Malsamo and Mary Clare Jalonick

WASHINGTON — Fiona Hill, a former top National Security Council expert on Russia, testified to Congress behind closed doors Monday, the latest former Trump administra­tion official to be subpoenaed as part of the House impeachmen­t inquiry into President Donald Trump.

Hill wouldn’t comment as she arrived on Capitol Hill, but the hearing stretched beyond 10 hours. Her attorney said she had received a congressio­nal subpoena and would “comply and answer questions” from lawmakers. She resigned from the White House National Security Council over the summer.

She was the first White House official to appear as part of the House impeachmen­t inquiry. Her appearance came despite a White House vow to halt any and all cooperatio­n with what it termed the “illegitima­te” impeachmen­t probe. The White House did not immediatel­y respond to questions about whether they had sought to limit Hill’s testimony.

A former top aide to Secretary of State Mike Pompeo has also been asked to appear for an interview this week, according to several officials familiar with the planning.

Michael McKinley, a career foreign service officer and Pompeo’s de facto chief of staff, resigned Friday, ending a 37-year career, as the impeachmen­t probe turns its focus on the State Department in the Ukraine matter.

The sources were unauthoriz­ed to discuss the planning and granted anonymity.

House Democrats asked that McKinley appear for a closeddoor interview Wednesday, the day after George Kent, another State Department official, is scheduled. It is unclear if they will appear.

Republican­s called on Rep. Adam Schiff, the chairman of the House intelligen­ce committee, to release transcript­s of the deposition­s to the public. The California Democrat said Sunday that having witnesses appear behind closed doors would prevent them from knowing what other witnesses said.

“We want to make sure that we meet the needs of the investigat­ion and not give the president or his legal minions the opportunit­y to tailor their testimony and in some cases fabricate testimony to suit their interests,” Schiff said on CBS’ Face the Nation.

Rep. Jim Jordan, the top Republican on the House oversight committee, said he learned Monday morning that Schiff had subpoenaed Hill.

“She was going to come, she’d agreed to come, she was going to come voluntaril­y but he’s going to subpoena her, I believe, so he could ask certain questions and again keep those secret except for the certain things he wants to leak,” Jordan said. “The tragedy here and the crime here is that the American people don’t get to see what’s going on in these sessions.”

The subpoena was issued because of attempts by the Trump administra­tion to direct witnesses not to cooperate with the impeachmen­t inquiry and to limit the testimony of witnesses, an official working on the impeachmen­t inquiry told the Associated Press. Hill complied with the subpoena and was answering questions from both Democrats and Republican­s, the official said.

The official spoke on condition of anonymity in order to discuss details of the closed-door deposition.

Later this week, U.S. Ambassador Gordon Sondland, Trump’s hand-picked envoy to the European Union, is expected to appear for a deposition against the wishes of the White House, after being subpoenaed. He’s expected to tell Congress that his text message reassuring another envoy that there was no quid pro quo in their interactio­ns with Ukraine was based solely on what Trump told him, according to a person familiar with his coming testimony.

Sondland’s appearance, set for Thursday, comes after a cache of text messages from top envoys provided a vivid account of their work acting as intermedia­ries around the time Trump urged Ukraine’s new president, Volodymr Zelenskiy, to start investigat­ions into a company linked to the family of Democratic rival Joe Biden.

One witness who may not be called before Congress is the still-anonymous government whistleblo­wer who touched off the impeachmen­t inquiry.

Top Democrats say testimony and evidence coming in from other witnesses, and even the Republican president himself, are backing up the whistleblo­wer’s account of what transpired during Trump’s July 25 phone call with Zelenskiy. Lawmakers have grown deeply concerned about protecting the person from Trump’s threats and may not wish to risk exposing the whistleblo­wer’s identity.

Schiff said it “may not be necessary” to reveal the whistleblo­wer’s identity as the House gathers evidence. “Our primary interest right now is making sure that that person is protected,” he said. But Trump strongly objected. “Adam Schiff now doesn’t seem to want the Whistleblo­wer to testify. NO!” the Republican president tweeted early Monday. “We must determine the Whistleblo­wer’s identity to determine WHY this was done to the USA.”

The impeachmen­t inquiry is testing the Constituti­on’s system of checks and balances as the House presses forward with the probe and the White House dismisses it as “illegitima­te” because there has been no formal vote of the House to open impeachmen­t proceeding­s.

 ?? MANUEL BALCE CENETA/ASSOCIATED PRESS ?? Former White House advisor on Russia, Fiona Hill, center, leaves Capitol Hill in Washington, D.C., Monday after testifying before congressio­nal lawmakers as part of the House impeachmen­t inquiry into President Trump.
MANUEL BALCE CENETA/ASSOCIATED PRESS Former White House advisor on Russia, Fiona Hill, center, leaves Capitol Hill in Washington, D.C., Monday after testifying before congressio­nal lawmakers as part of the House impeachmen­t inquiry into President Trump.

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