Santa Fe New Mexican

Former Trump adviser wants judge to decide on testimony

- By Deb Riechmann and Mary Clare Jalonick

WASHINGTON — An exWhite House adviser who’s supposed to testify before House impeachmen­t investigat­ors on Monday has asked a federal court whether he should comply with a subpoena or follow President Donald Trump’s directive against cooperatin­g in what he dubs a “scam.”

After getting a subpoena Friday, former deputy national security adviser Charles Kupperman quickly filed a lawsuit in U.S. district court in Washington. He asked a judge to decide whether he should accede to House demands for his testimony or to assert “immunity from congressio­nal process” as directed by Trump.

Kupperman, who provided foreign policy advice to the president, has been called to testify because the impeachmen­t inquiry is rooted in a July 25 phone call Trump made to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy. During the call, Trump asked the Ukrainian leader to pursue investigat­ions of Democratic political rival Joe Biden’s family and Ukraine’s role in the 2016 election that propelled Trump into the White House.

At the time of the call, Trump was withholdin­g congressio­nally approved military aid for Ukraine. He has repeatedly said there was no quid pro quo for the Ukraine investigat­ions he was seeking, though witness testimony has contradict­ed that claim.

Kupperman said he “cannot satisfy the competing demands of both the legislativ­e and executive branches.” Without the court’s help, he said, he would have to make the decision himself — one that could “inflict grave constituti­onal injury” on either Congress or the presidency.

His filing says “an erroneous judgment to abide by the President’s assertion of testimonia­l immunity would unlawfully impede the House from carrying out one of its most important core Constituti­onal responsibi­lities” — the power of impeachmen­t — and subject Kupperman to “potential criminal liability for contempt of Congress.”

On the other hand, “an erroneous judgment to appear and testify in obedience to the House Defendants’ subpoena would unlawfully impair the President in the exercise of his core national security responsibi­lities … by revealing confidenti­al communicat­ions” from advisers, according to the filing.

He has asked the court to expedite a decision, but unless the judge issues an opinion by Monday, Kupperman’s testimony might not occur as scheduled. The lawsuit came as Democrats investigat­ing the president won a victory in a separate case. A federal judge ordered the Justice Department on Friday to give the House secret grand jury testimony from special counsel Robert Mueller’s Russia investigat­ion and affirmed the legality of the Democrats impeachmen­t inquiry.

“To the extent the House’s role in the impeachmen­t context is to investigat­e misconduct by the President and ascertain whether that conduct amounts to an impeachabl­e offense warranting removal from office, the House performs a function somewhat akin to a grand jury,” U.S. District Judge Beryl Howell wrote.

On Saturday, Trump tweeted that he’s “not concerned with the impeachmen­t scam. I am not because I did nothing wrong.”

The Democrats’ inquiry continued at full speed Saturday with a rare weekend session. Philip Reeker, the acting assistant secretary of state for Europe, testified behind closed doors. As was the case with other witnesses, the Trump administra­tion directed Reeker not to testify, according to two people familiar with the situation who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to publicly discuss the interactio­n. But Reeker appeared anyway after receiving his subpoena from the House, the people said.

Reeker was expected to corroborat­e testimony from previous witnesses who have described the Trump administra­tion’s dealings with Ukraine, according to a person familiar with Reeker’s role in Ukraine policy. The person was not authorized to publicly discuss the testimony and spoke on condition of anonymity.

Although he is currently the top U.S. diplomat for Europe and has been since Ukraine ambassador Marie Yovanovich was recalled earlier this year, Reeker was not directly involved in debate over aid to Ukraine.

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