Santa Fe New Mexican

Pence should show courage, testify about Jan. 6

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Mike Pence avoided testifying before the select U.S. House committee investigat­ing the Jan. 6 insurrecti­on by claiming the legislativ­e branch had “no right” to seek the testimony of a former vice president because of the Constituti­on’s separation of powers. It would “establish a terrible precedent,” he said in November.

Now that special counsel Jack Smith has subpoenaed him to testify before a grand jury about the same topic, Pence resists by arguing his role as presiding officer of the Senate actually made him part of the legislativ­e branch and therefore is shielded by the Constituti­on’s “speech or debate” clause.

Pence performed his constituti­onal duty on Jan. 6, 2021, when he resisted pressure from then-President Donald Trump to overturn the 2020 election. Now, he has a duty to tell investigat­ors what he knows about the former president’s machinatio­ns to stay in power, which triggered an assault on the U.S. Capitol by Trump supporters. Some of them were chanting: “Hang Mike Pence.”

We withhold judgment on the substantiv­e merits of Pence’s untested but far-reaching legal theory that, as a former president of the Senate, he’s covered by a provision in Article I of the Constituti­on, whose original intent was to protect legislator­s from harassment by the executive. A simple reading of its language suggests it applies only to actual senators and representa­tives, though the Supreme Court has interprete­d it to cover congressio­nal staffers.

Speaking to reporters Wednesday, Pence presented his resistance to complying with the summons as a principled defense of the separation of powers and said he’s willing to appeal all the way to the Supreme Court. “My fight against the DOJ’s subpoena, very simply, is on defending the prerogativ­es that I had as president of the Senate,” he said. “On Jan. 6, President Trump was wrong.

... It’s also wrong to establish a precedent where a legislativ­e official could be called into court by an executive branch.”

But two years ago, in arguing he couldn’t unilateral­ly reject electors, Pence said his Senate role was a “largely ceremonial” position, adding: “The role of Congress is much different.”

The political rationale for defying this subpoena is clearer than the legal one. Pence, who stumped Wednesday in Iowa and Minnesota ahead of a likely 2024 bid against Trump for the GOP presidenti­al nomination, might fear that cooperatin­g with prosecutor­s could permanentl­y alienate Trump’s supporters.

The political calendar is also why Smith is trying to wrap up his work quickly. Pence’s stalling tactics make the special counsel’s job harder. Further slowing down the fact-finding process, Trump’s lawyers also say they will claim executive privilege in their own bid to quash the subpoena of Pence. The fight could drag out many months.

Pence noted Wednesday he has “spoken and written extensivel­y” about what happened over the past two years. “I have nothing to hide,” he said.

We believe him. That’s what makes his refusal to cooperate with the special counsel’s investigat­ion so disappoint­ing.

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