Sentinel & Enterprise

Sanders, Graham pull no punches in debate

- By Matthew Medsger mmedsger@bostonhera­ld.com

It started with a handshake, but U. S. Sens. Bernie Sanders and Lindsey Graham wasted very little time when their debate devolved into the same disagreeme­nts they would have had if they stayed in D.C.

“Do yourself a favor and ask yourself the following question, am I better off today than I was two years ago? And if you are, you were in a world of hurt two years ago, because most people are not better off today,” Graham, a Republican of South Carolina, told the audience Monday.

“What we don’t need right now is demagoguer­y, we need thoughtful solutions to the major crisis that we face,” Sanders, an Independen­t from Vermont who caucuses with the Democrats, said.

Sanders and Graham met in Boston for the first of a series of debates hosted by a coalition of political foundation­s — the Bipartisan Policy Center, the Orrin G. Hatch Foundation, and the Edward M. Kennedy Institute for the United States Senate — aimed at showcasing the potential for those of differing beliefs to still come together for civil discourse.

Monday’s debate topic was chosen in advance of the event and centered on the economy.

Sanders was offered the opportunit­y to open the debate, when he told the Fox News audience that he was about to share with them informatio­n they would not be able to get on the network normally. Sanders told the audience that our country is slipping ever closer to oligarchy, as wealth distributi­on reaches disparitie­s never before seen in our society.

“We are moving toward an oligarchic form of society where a small number of billionair­es not only have extraordin­ary wealth, they have extraordin­ary political power,” he said. “We are living at a time when half of our people are living paycheck-to-paycheck in the wealthiest country on Earth.”

Graham responded that if the Democrats had a plan it would pass muster and clear Congress. He challenged Sanders several times to bring any of his plans to the Senate floor, where he said they would be defeated.

“After hearing Bernie talk, you would believe we’re building a wall to keep people in, not out. Things are tough, but they’re going to get better, right? And socialism is not the answer to all these problems. So I just want to remind you a little bit about where we’re at: the Democrats have the House, the Senate, and the White House. All these problems that were talked about, they could change or fix if they could. Their agenda is not working,” he said.

Sanders accused Graham of parroting the party line.

“Now, it’s interestin­g to hear Senator Graham speak because, other than the partisan rhetoric, what you don’t hear him talking about are in fact the most important issues facing this country. That’s what the establishm­ent does,” Sanders said.

“All these problems that were talked about, they could change or fix if they could. Their agenda is not working. So here’s what I want to tell you, vote Republican in 2022,” Graham said, a point he made several times.

The debate, hosted by Bret Baier, was carried live by Fox’s streaming service, Fox Nation, Monday at noon, but will air on Fox News on Saturday at 7 p.m.

The next debate is scheduled for July at Georgetown University and the third in Utah at the Hatch Foundation, named for former U. S. Sen. Orrin Hatch.

Each further debate will include a new set of U. S. senators.

 ?? MATT STONE / BOSTON HERALD ?? U.S. Sens. Bernie Sanders, I-VT., left, and Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., right, speak after their debate at the Edward M. Kennedy Institute on Monday.
MATT STONE / BOSTON HERALD U.S. Sens. Bernie Sanders, I-VT., left, and Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., right, speak after their debate at the Edward M. Kennedy Institute on Monday.

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