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Panels can’t get advisers to talk

Experts say Trump aides stretch use of executive privilege

- By Chris Megerian and David G. Savage chris.megerian@latimes.com

WASHINGTON — When President Donald Trump’s former campaign manager, Corey Lewandowsk­i, appeared in January before the House intelligen­ce committee investigat­ing Russian political interferen­ce, he refused to answer questions about his conversati­ons with Trump after he was fired by the future president in June 2016.

The Republican­s running the panel did not respond with a subpoena, which Congress can use to compel testimony. They instead invited Lewandowsk­i to return when he was ready, and he’s scheduled to testify again Thursday.

Steve Bannon, the former White House chief strategist, Donald Trump Jr., the president’s eldest son, and Hope Hicks, the outgoing communicat­ions, also have declined to discuss certain topics in closed-door House committee hearings.

Over in the Senate, top Trump administra­tion intelligen­ce and law enforcemen­t officials, most notably Attorney General Jeff Sessions, have refused to discuss their private conversati­ons with Trump, at least in public hearings, regarding Russia and other issues.

Most of the conflicts over congressio­nal testimony have revolved around executive privilege, the president’s legal authority to keep some conversati­ons and other material secret to protect internal deliberati­ons. Although the White House hasn’t formally invoked the privilege, Trump’s current and former aides said they would not answer questions to protect the president’s right to cite the privilege later should he seek to do so.

Legal experts said the White House has broadened the traditiona­l use of executive privilege to direct individual­s to avoid answering questions about conversati­ons with the president.

The Trump White House is “preventing any testimony from people on the grounds that something, at some point, is potentiall­y covered by executive privilege,” said Mark Rozell, a professor at George Mason University who has studied the presidency.

Jim Schultz, a former deputy counsel in Trump’s White House who now works at the Cozen O’Connor law firm, said there’s nothing wrong with safeguardi­ng the president’s prerogativ­e to keep some informatio­n secret.

‘It’s the obligation of the White House counsel to protect the institutio­n of the White House and the executive privilege that goes along with it,” Schultz said.

Rep. Jerrold Nadler, the top Democrat on the House Judiciary Committee, conceded that partisansh­ip can be at play. But he said Republican­s are bending over backward to accede to White House efforts to rope off areas of inquiry

“I’ve rarely seen a total surrender, a total failure of congressio­nal oversight,” Nadler said. “They’re going further than the president’s party usually goes.”

Republican­s have accused Democrats of conducting a partisan quest to embarrass Trump and his inner circle. They also have argued that special counsel Robert Mueller is conducting a criminal investigat­ion of the Russian meddling, and whether Trump or his aides committed any crimes, reducing pressure on Congress to find the answers for themselves.

The venue for most conflicts involving the Russia investigat­ion has been the House intelligen­ce committee, one of three congressio­nal panels conducting inquiries.

When the House panel interviewe­d Donald Trump Jr. about his June 2016 meeting at Trump Tower

with a Kremlin-linked lawyer, he refused to recount his conversati­on with his father about the meeting, claiming attorney-client privilege because a lawyer was present at the time.

Bannon, the former White House strategist, rejected any questions from the committee regarding events or conversati­ons after the election. After the committee slapped him with a subpoena, Bannon agreed to return for another hearing.

But during his second appearance, he was only willing to address a predetermi­ned list of yes-or- no questions that White House lawyers had helped him prepare.

A spokeswoma­n for House Speaker Paul Ryan, R-Wis., declined to discuss whether Bannon would be held in contempt.

A spokesman for Rep. Devin Nunes, the panel’s chairman, did not respond to a question about how many subpoenas have been issued in the investigat­ion.

Rozell said the Constituti­on’s separation of powers is no longer working as envisioned.

“James Madison would not be happy to see this. He believed each branch of government would zealously defend its prerogativ­es,” he said. “The administra­tion is essentiall­y preventing the legislativ­e branch from doing its job. And to the extent they stand down, it weakens the institutio­n in the long run.”

 ?? MARK WILSON/GETTY ?? Former Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowsk­i, who testified in January before the House intelligen­ce committee, is scheduled to again appear before the panel Thursday.
MARK WILSON/GETTY Former Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowsk­i, who testified in January before the House intelligen­ce committee, is scheduled to again appear before the panel Thursday.

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