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The future is self-driving:

Tech experts discuss rise of self-driving cars in our society

- RYAN RANDAZZO THE REPUBLIC | AZCENTRAL.COM

Even if large numbers of people today don’t anticipate ever wanting a selfdrivin­g vehicle, the technology is coming, and society needs to prepare for it. That was the message from four technology experts Friday who spoke to a gathering by Arizona Forward.

Even if large numbers of people today don’t anticipate ever wanting a self-driving vehicle, the technology is coming, and society needs to prepare for it.

That was the message from four technology experts Friday who spoke to a gathering by Arizona Forward, a nonprofit environmen­tal and business group.

Arizona Forward officials said the topic is pertinent to Arizonans now because GM, Waymo, Uber, Intel and other companies are testing autonomous vehicles in Arizona.

In the next decade, between 10 percent and 35 percent of the cars on the road are likely to be autonomous, predicts Ben Pierce, the transporta­tion and technology lead for HDR, an internatio­nal engineerin­g and architectu­re firm.

“Even with a small percentage of the fleet (driving autonomous) we can get a significan­t amount of the benefits,” said Pierce, who is based in Ohio.

He said by 2050 at least 40 percent of the cars on the road will be autonomous.

Combined with enhanced communicat­ions infrastruc­ture that allows traffic lights to interact with vehicles, autonomy could relieve traffic congestion by improving traffic flow. The service also could help people with disabiliti­es, the elderly or very young get around, the speakers said.

Companies developing the technology also predict that automated cars could reduce the number of fatalities and injuries from collisions, most of which are caused by human error.

While some people are skeptical of the technology and would be reluctant to buy an autonomous vehicle today, that’s likely to change, officials said.

“I love to drive, too,” said moderator Eric Anderson, transporta­tion director for the Maricopa Associatio­n of Government­s. “If (autonomous vehicles) can make our lives better, safer and more convenient, then it is going to be embraced.”

He described testing a Tesla with partial self-driving capabiliti­es, and the moment when he was asked to take his hands off the wheel while traveling 65 miles per hour on the Loop 101.

“I really don’t want to,” he told his passenger. Eventually he let go, he said, and the car maintained its lane and braked when traffic slowed.

“It was really an eye-opening experience,” he said.

John Williams, an associate and senior project architect at Gensler in Phoenix and president of the non-profit Rio Salado Architectu­re Foundation, said it is inevitable that the technology becomes widely adopted. Owners only use the approximat­ely 260 million passenger vehicles in the U.S. today about 5 percent of the time, he said.

“We have a generation that is not buying cars,” he said.

He said ride-sharing will displace a large portion of those personal vehicles, and that industry is quickly moving to autonomy.

He also said architects need to begin planning projects now to accommodat­e the changes self-driving cars will bring.

Already his firm is designing structures, such as parking garages, with fewer parking spaces. For example, a structure under developmen­t in Denver will be built with flat parking surfaces, rather than ramps, so that the top floors one day may be repurposed into office space or some other use.

Another example is the Arizona Center in downtown Phoenix, which is being remodeled with what previously was a trash area being converted into a dropoff zone appropriat­e for ride-share vehicles.

He said approximat­ely 125,000 gas stations in the country could be “reimagined” with a wholesale move to electric vehicles that recharge in public parking spaces rather than convenienc­e stores.

“The real-estate industry will have to come to an understand­ing of things,” he said.

Greg Rodriguez, an attorney with Best, Best and Krieger in Washington, D.C., who advises client cities on transporta­tion technology, said local government­s will need to consider their role in helping the industry develop.

“The question is, are we setting the legal and policy foundation to get this right?” Rodriguez said.

The speakers noted Gov. Doug Ducey’s 2015 executive order that welcomed the industry to test vehicles here. The order aimed to make suggestion­s if needed, but not over-regulate the fledgling industry.

Rodriguez said that while the industry promises many benefits, policies need to encourage smart use of the technology so that roads don’t get more congested with single-occupancy cars where people are all “watching Netflix” while leaving public transit empty.

 ?? JOSH WOOD/INTEL ?? Two Intel employees test out a self-driving car in the southeast Valley.
JOSH WOOD/INTEL Two Intel employees test out a self-driving car in the southeast Valley.
 ?? NICK OZA/THE REPUBLIC ?? Driver Priscilla Knox and Jaime Waydo, a Waymo engineer, demonstrat­e a self-driving car.
NICK OZA/THE REPUBLIC Driver Priscilla Knox and Jaime Waydo, a Waymo engineer, demonstrat­e a self-driving car.

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