The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

White House sends mixed signals on replacemen­t for health law

Trump, top aides show division on scope of health care overhaul.

- By Juliet Eilperin and Amy Goldstein

WASHINGTON — A meeting Friday afternoon between President Donald Trump and Ohio Gov. John Kasich, his former rival in the GOP primaries, had no set agenda. But Kasich came armed with one anyway: his hope to blunt drastic changes to the nation’s healthcare system envisioned by some conservati­ves in Washington.

Over the next 45 minutes, according to Kasich and others briefed on the session, the governor made his pitch while the president eagerly called in several top aides and then got Health and Human Services Secretary Tom Price on the phone. At one point, senior adviser Jared Kushner reminded his father-in-law that House Republican­s are sketching out a different approach to providing access to coverage. “Well, I like this better,” Trump replied, according to a Kasich adviser.

The freewheeli­ng session, which concluded with the president

instructin­g Price and Chief of Staff Reince Priebus to meet with Kasich the next day, underscore­s the unorthodox way the White House is proceeding as Republican­s work to dismantle the Affordable Care Act and replace it with something else. The day after Kasich delivered his impromptu tutorial, Trump spent lunch discussing the same topic with two other GOP governors with a very different vision — Scott Walker of Wisconsin and Rick Scott of Florida.

Scott said Sunday that he used the lunch to press for principles he has pushed publicly, such as financial compensati­on for states that did not expand Medicaid under the ACA and the importance of providing competitio­n and cutting required benefits to allow people to “buy insurance that fits them.”

While leaving most of the detail work to lawmakers, top White House aides are divided on how dramatic an overhaul effort the party should pursue. And the biggest wild card remains the president himself, who has devoted only a modest amount of time to the grinding task of mastering health-care policy but has repeatedly suggested that his sweeping new plan is nearly complete.

This conundrum will be on full display today, when Trump meets at the White House with some of the nation’s largest health insurers. The session, which will include top executives from Blue Cross and Blue Shield, Cigna and Humana, is not expected to produce a major policy announceme­nt. But it will provide an opportunit­y for one more important constituen­cy to lobby the nation’s leader on an issue he has said is at the top of his agenda.

Democrats and their allies are already mobilizing supporters to hammer lawmakers about the possible impact of rolling back the ACA, holding more than 100 rallies across the country Saturday. And a new analysis for the National Governors Associatio­n that modeled the effect of imposing a cap on Medicaid spending — a key component of House Republican­s’ strategy — provided Democrats with fresh ammunition because of its finding that the number of insured Americans could fall significan­tly.

Trump, for his part, continues to express confidence about his administra­tion’s ostensible plan. He suggested Wednesday that it would be out within a few weeks.

“So we’re doing the health care — again, moving along very well — sometime during the month of March, maybe mid- to early March, we’ll be submitting something that I think people will be very impressed by,” he told reporters during a budget meeting in the Roosevelt Room.

Yet some lawmakers, state leaders and policy experts who have discussed the matter with either Trump or his top aides say the administra­tion is largely delegating the developmen­t of an ACA substitute to Capitol Hill. The president, who attended part of a lengthy heath-care policy session his aides held at Mar-a-Lago a week ago, appears more interested in brokering specific questions, such as how to negotiate drug prices, than in steering the plan’s drafting.

“The legislativ­e branch, the House first and foremost, is providing the policy,” said Rep. Tom Cole, R-Okla., who noted that the White House lacks “a big policy shop” and that Price and some key principals just recently got in place. Seema Verma, whom Trump has nominated to head the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, should play a key role in any reform effort if she is confirmed.

In the current process, the White House becomes “the political sounding board” in altering Obamacare, as the 2010 law is known, “and the final voice of reason is what the Senate can accept,” Cole said.

Within the administra­tion, aides are debating how far and fast Republican­s can afford to move when it comes to undoing key aspects of the ACA. White House officials declined to comment for this story.

Several people in Trump’s orbit are eager to make bold changes to reduce the government’s role in the health-care system. That camp includes Vice President Mike Pence, who told conservati­ve activists last week that “America’s Obamacare nightmare is about to end,” as well as Domestic Policy Council aides Andrew Bremberg and Katy Talento and National Economic Council aide Brian Blase.

Blase, who most recently worked as a senior research fellow at George Mason University’s Mercatus Center, published a paper in December titled “Replacing the Affordable Care Act the Right Way.” Its conservati­ve blueprint emphasized the “need to reduce government bias towards comprehens­ive coverage” for all Americans and a revamping of Medicaid, which was expanded under the ACA and added 11 million Americans to the rolls.

“Medicaid needs fundamenta­l reform with the goals of dramatical­ly reducing the number of people enrolled in the program and providing a higher-quality program for remaining enrollees,” Blase wrote.

Other White House advisers, according to multiple individual­s who asked for anonymity to describe private discussion­s, have emphasized the potential political costs to moving aggressive­ly. That group includes Kushner, NEC Director Gary Cohn, senior policy adviser Stephen Miller and chief strategist Stephen K. Bannon.

Asked by George Stephanopo­ulos, host of ABC’s “This Week,” whether Trump “won’t touch Social Security, Medicare or Medicaid,” White House principal deputy press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said, “Look, the president is committed to doing that . ... And I don’t see any reason to start thinking differentl­y.”

 ??  ?? Health and Human Services Secretary Tom Price discussed policy with President Trump and Ohio Gov. John Kasich.
Health and Human Services Secretary Tom Price discussed policy with President Trump and Ohio Gov. John Kasich.
 ?? STEVE SCHAEFER / SPECIAL ?? Protesters line Peachtree Street Saturday during a march in support of the Affordable Care Act in Atlanta. The march started at St. Mark United Methodist Church and ended in Woodruff Park.
STEVE SCHAEFER / SPECIAL Protesters line Peachtree Street Saturday during a march in support of the Affordable Care Act in Atlanta. The march started at St. Mark United Methodist Church and ended in Woodruff Park.

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