The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

When the boss is half your age

As millennial­s rise through the ranks and boomers stay on the job longer, more workers are reporting to bosses who are young enough to be their kids.

- By Joanne Kaufman

Christine Sabo had three decades of fundraisin­g experience behind her when, three years ago, she was hired as the vice president for major giving at a nonprofit in South Florida. But right about the time Sabo came aboard, the chief executive had accepted a position elsewhere.

The replacemen­t in the top slot: a 36-year-old.

“The way he operated was classic for that age group: I would get texts and emails any time day and night,” recalled Sabo, now 59. “If I said I had 30 years in the profession, he hated that. He would say: ‘I don’t want to hear how long you’ve been in the field. I don’t care how long you’ve done this or that.’”

The new boss seemed to be sending the message that the way Sabo approached fundraisin­g and developmen­t was out of date. “At the end of the day, it felt like, ‘You need to come into the new millennium,’” she said. “I used to chuckle and wonder what kind of relationsh­ip he had with his mother.”

Despite her growing discomfort, she tried to do her job and avoid conversati­on or confrontat­ion with the boss — who first demoted her, then fired her.

“He told me that I wasn’t hitting my goals, but that’s not true,” said Sabo, who has a new job and an older boss. “I think it was that we butted heads. Some of it was style, but some of it was generation­al.”

Companies these days are looking to fill the management ranks with people who are “digital natives,” which frequently translates to millennial­s and Gen X-ers. Meanwhile, more baby boomers are staying on the job longer, and some retirees, looking for a second act, are rejoining the ranks of the employed, at least part time.

Consequent­ly, the odds are increasing that older workers will be answering to managers young enough to be their children. A 2014 Harris Interactiv­e survey on behalf of CareerBuil­der, a job recruitmen­t website, found that 38 percent of U.S. workers had a younger boss, up from 34 percent in 2012.

“Obviously, there have always been younger people in the workforce, but in the past, younger workers were on the lower floors and older workers were executives on the upper floors and in the executive dining room,” said Jill Chapman, a senior performanc­e consultant with Insperity, a personnel management firm.

But because younger workers now have the advantage in sheer numbers, “there are more opportunit­ies for them to move into management roles,” Chapman continued. “They’re in their 30s, and they’ve had lots of experience because of internship­s we older workers gave them when they were in high school and college.

They had those experience­s, and they had the chops for exec positions at an earlier age.”

If older workers have difficulty adjusting, there’s a good reason: It goes against the natural order that the subordinat­e would have several decades on the supervisor. “Research shows that older workers are not as responsive to that younger boss, because they feel he or she shouldn’t be in that position,” said Orlando Richard, an associate professor of management at the University of Texas at Dallas, who recently completed a study on status incongruen­ce.

There are implicatio­ns for the organizati­on, too. “The older workers with younger bosses are less committed to the company,” Richard said. “They’re not as engaged in the job. If they’re close to retirement, they may not leave, but they may not work as hard.”

Some companies are making efforts to address the issue. AT&T, for example, offers supervisor­s a two-hour course, “Managing the Cross-Generation­al Workforce,” which “helps prepare them to effectivel­y communicat­e with and motivate their direct reports,” said Jan Rasmussen, a company spokeswoma­n.

And not every older worker feels marginaliz­ed or unapprecia­ted, nor does every younger boss feel disdainful and misunderst­ood.

“I don’t look at age — I look at business intelligen­ce,” said Valentino Lanoce, 54, regional director of operations for restaurant chain Verts Mediterran­ean Grill, who reports to the company’s founders, Dominik Stein, 29, and Michael Heyne, 32. “Dominik and Michael respect my experience in the industry, and they’ll ask for my opinion and advice. It’s very collaborat­ive.”

Lanoce said that his interview with Stein and Heyne “was like sitting with mature officers of a company.” He said: “They’re discipline­d and profession­al. Otherwise, I never would have left where I was to come and work with them.”

When talking about her tour of duty at O’Connell & Goldberg, a public relations firm in Hollywood, Florida, Karen Dennis, 60, likes to invoke “The Intern,” the 2015 comedy that starred Robert De Niro as an unpaid septuagena­rian assistant to a much younger chief executive.

Dennis, a former administra­tive social worker and marketing consultant, had always wanted to work for a PR agency — badly enough to work without pay. Nine years ago, through a connection, she got her chance at O’Connell & Goldberg.

“Social media was starting to emerge, and I was so lacking in skills,” Dennis said.

She clearly learned quickly. After nine months, she was offered a paid position; her boss, Barbara Goldberg, a founder of the company, was 10 years her junior.

“There’s a great work ethic with older workers,” Goldberg said. “They come on time, and they stay, and they’re detail-oriented. They also avoid petty drama, because this isn’t their first time at the rodeo.”

Goldberg said that Dennis filled an important role: “Karen was so nurturing and motherly to the younger employees — she had the time and patience, and I didn’t.”

But there were some tensions. “As a 51-year-old, I tended to step back and assess a situation,” Dennis said. “When you’re that age, you don’t see jumping in as being to your best advantage, because you haven’t yet seen the whole picture.” Her boss’s philosophy, on the other hand, was “jump in.”

“It’s a dance you do,” added Dennis, who was with the firm for more than six years before leaving to freelance; she remains close to Goldberg. “It’s like marriage,” Dennis said, “My boss would say, ‘This is what I want,’ and I would say, ‘This is what I can do.’”

 ?? SCOTT MCINTYRE/THE NEW YORK TIMES ?? Karen Dennis, 60, visits her former boss Barbara Goldberg’s public relations firm, O’Connell & Goldberg, in Hollywood, Fla. Goldberg, who is 10 years Dennis’ junior, said that Dennis filled an important role: “Karen was so nurturing and motherly to the...
SCOTT MCINTYRE/THE NEW YORK TIMES Karen Dennis, 60, visits her former boss Barbara Goldberg’s public relations firm, O’Connell & Goldberg, in Hollywood, Fla. Goldberg, who is 10 years Dennis’ junior, said that Dennis filled an important role: “Karen was so nurturing and motherly to the...

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