The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

Trump asks limits of power to pardon aides

Judiciary panel to question Kushner, Manafort, Trump Jr.

- By Tom Brune

President Donald Trump’s private lawyers are probing special counsel Robert Mueller and his legal team for conflicts of interest, and even looking into the president’s power to pardon himself and his inner circle, news reports said Friday.

The new drive to push back on and even undermine the credibilit­y of the Justice Department’s special counsel comes as Mueller and his team began taking a closer look at the finances of Trump, his family and his associates, including deals before he was president.

The reports follow Trump’s interview published Thursday in which he said that Mueller and members of his team have conflicts of interest and warned the special prosecutor not to cross a red line by shifting his investigat­ion from Russia and into his family’s finances.

It also comes ahead of a Senate Judiciary Committee’s hearing next week to question Donald Trump Jr., Trump aide and son-in-law Jared Kushner, and former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort about contacts with Russians during the campaign.

“There are so many conflicts that everybody has,” Trump said in a New York Times interview, offering a critique that went beyond the special prosecutor’s staff to include the deputy FBI director and the deputy attorney general who appointed Mueller.

And the president has asked his advisers about the extent of his power to pardon aides, family members and even himself in the probe, one unnamed source said, and a second source said his lawyers have been discussing pardons themselves, The Washington Post reported.

The new aggressive approach by Trump’s legal team comes as it goes through a shake-up in which its spokesman resigned and Washington veteran attorneys Ty Cobb and John Dowd took the lead from Trump’s personal lawyer Marc Kasowitz, several news reports said.

Trump’s lawyers “will consistent­ly evaluate the issue of conflicts and raise them in the appropriat­e venue,” Trump team attorney Jay Sekulow told The Associated Press Thursday.

Among them, Trump said in the interview, are campaign contributi­ons to Democrats by members of Mueller’s team, Mueller’s interviewi­ng for the FBI director’s job the day before he was appointed special counsel and, reports said, even Mueller’s resignatio­n from a Trump golf club.

Rep. Chris Collins (D-Buffalo), a key Trump supporter, told CNN that the campaign contributi­ons were not a valid conflict — “money is the ugly side of politics,” he said. Collins also called Mueller a “man of integrity.” He did not extend that praise to Mueller’s team.

The attack on the special counsel is reminiscen­t of the campaign that President Bill Clinton and his aides pressed against Independen­t Counsel Ken Starr in the 1990s, said former Clinton aide Paul Begala and other commentato­rs.

Top Democrats on the Senate and House intelligen­ce committees conducting their own investigat­ion of Trump campaign ties to Russian meddling in last year’s presidenti­al election reacted to the new developmen­ts with alarm.

“The possibilit­y that the President is considerin­g pardons at this early stage in these ongoing investigat­ions is extremely disturbing,” Sen. Mark Warner (D-Va.) said in a statement Thursday night.

“Pardoning any individual­s who may have been involved would be crossing a fundamenta­l line,” he said, adding that Attorney General Jeff Sessions at a recent hearing declined to comment about whether Trump had discussed pardons in the probe.

Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.) in a statement urged Trump to “rule out categorica­lly” efforts to undercut the special counsel’s investigat­ion with pardons and defended Mueller’s authority “to investigat­e anything that arises” from his probe.

Sen. Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn.), a member of the Judiciary Committee, said on CNN that he would propose and try to pass a statute to create an independen­t counsel appointed by a panel of three judges who could not be fired by the president, like Starr.

Republican­s expressed less concern. Sen. Bill Cassidy (R-La.) said on CNN that the pushback is “what Bill Clinton did,” adding that “this is standard procedure.” Yet he acknowledg­ed Trump’s public comments about the probe are unusual.

 ?? DOUG MILLS / THE NEW YORK TIMES ?? Robert Mueller is the focus of a team of lawyers looking for informatio­n that could get investigat­ors recused or justify firing Mueller.
DOUG MILLS / THE NEW YORK TIMES Robert Mueller is the focus of a team of lawyers looking for informatio­n that could get investigat­ors recused or justify firing Mueller.

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