The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
House Dems release 2 more transcripts Nicholas Fandos, Michael D. Shear and Eileen Sullivan
They expect to make all interview records public in coming days.
WASHINGTON — House Democrats released two more transcripts of private witness depositions early Friday afternoon, this time disclosing testimony from Fiona Hill, a former White House policy adviser, and Lt. Col. Alexander S. Vindman, who still works there as a Ukraine expert.
Substantial elements of what the officials had to say have already seeped into public view, but the transcripts fill out the picture of what they know about an apparent campaign by President Donald Trump and his personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani to pressure Ukraine to conduct politically motivated investigations of Democrats. They will also show what Hill and Vindman might have to say if called to testify publicly.
Hill was the senior director for Russian and Europe on the National Security Council until July. When she spoke with investigators last month, she described a heated confrontation at the White House in early July after Gordon Sondland, the U.S. ambassador to the European Union, told visiting Ukrainian officials that they would need to conduct the investigations Trump wanted if their new president was to get the White House meeting he coveted. Hill said that she reported the episode to White House lawyers at the direction of her boss, John Bolton, who called whatever was taking place toward Ukraine a “drug deal” they should not be a part of.
Vindman, the top Ukraine expert at the National Security Council, testified that he had been deeply alarmed by another episode at the center of the inquiry: a July phone call in which Trump pressed Ukraine’s president to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden and his son, as well as possible Democratic collusion with Ukraine in 2016. Vindman said that he notified the same White House lawyers that he viewed that call as inappropriate, and that they later locked down a summary of the call and instructed him not to discuss it.
Democrats have now released a total of nine transcripts, with a handful left to go. They expect to make all of the interview records public in the coming days.