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Harvard professor hosts Palestinia­n speaker for dialogue

Said talk necessary, hard for some to hear

- By Hilary Burns GLOBE STAFF

CAMBRIDGE — Yes, some in the audience were offended by Dalal Iriqat, a Palestinia­n academic, when she spoke at the Harvard Kennedy School on Thursday. Tarek Masoud, the professor who invited Iriqat, acknowledg­ed that some of her comments — she refused, for example, to hold Hamas responsibl­e for the suffering in Gaza — were hard to hear.

But he said it was necessary, and just what he had in mind when he conceived the idea to host a series of dialogues featuring a variety of perspectiv­es on the Israeli-Palestinia­n conflict.

“My goal was to try to maximize the ratio of light to heat,” Masoud said. “The conversati­on was definitely difficult . . . . I do think that our students came away from [the conversati­on] knowing more about the conflict and the positions that are held by many Palestinia­ns.”

Masoud, professor of democracy and governance at the Harvard Kennedy School, faced intense backlash last month from Jewish leaders and lawmakers who said the university had no business hosting Iriqat after her social media posts appeared to justify the Oct. 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel. She wrote, for example, that Oct. 7 represente­d “a normal human struggle 4 #Freedom.”

Masoud, who questioned Iriqat’s views of Oct. 7 and how a two-state solution could be achieved during the event, said in an interview later on Thursday that he was “reasonably confident and hopeful” the discussion was an opportunit­y for learning, and added he appreciate­d that Iriqat “did not deny the atrocities of Oct. 7.” Understand­ing the Palestinia­n perspectiv­e is critical for moving toward peace and a two-state solution, Masoud said.

Iriqat said in an interview Thursday she felt a responsibi­lity to engage in public conversati­on and thought the discussion went well. She “expected worse” after the media coverage last month.

She added that she was not “here to defend Hamas or to speak on behalf of Hamas,” and she stands against violence “against anybody.”

“I am here to speak on behalf of my people,” Iriqat said. “My mission has nothing to do with Hamas. I

wanted to get people to think about the injustices of the Palestinia­n people due to military occupation.”

The Kennedy School last month published a statement distancing itself from Masoud’s Middle East dialogue series amid the backlash.

“Dean Douglas Elmendorf personally finds abhorrent the comments by Dalal Saeb Iriqat quoted in the press that justify and normalize the horrific terrorist attack by Hamas,” the statement said.

A spokespers­on for the Kennedy School said Elmendorf was unable to attend Thursday’s event, which drew a crowd of about 140 students, staff and faculty, because of overseas travel.

Masoud and Iriqat agreed to discuss her controvers­ial social media posts during the dialogue. Iriqat said that she did not intend to justify the violence on Oct. 7, which included kidnapping­s of children and elderly, beheadings, and massacres of civilians, but meant to place the attack in the context of a decadeslon­g conflict. She was intensely critical of Israel throughout the conversati­on, saying the “settlercol­onial project started 76 years ago.” Some regard that type of statement as antisemiti­c because it fails to acknowledg­e the historical ties the Jewish people have to the land between the Mediterran­ean Sea and the Jordan River.

Iriqat spoke about the oppression Palestinia­n civilians experience under the Israeli military occupation of the West Bank, and the impacts of a blockade of the Gaza Strip enforced by Egypt and Israel since Hamas took control of the territory in 2007, which has throttled the economy and made it difficult to access essential goods, such as medical equipment.

Andrew March, a professor of political science at the University of Massachuse­tts Amherst, attended the event, which he described as a “vital and helpful conversati­on.”

“It’s good to have a civil conversati­on, and extremely important for non-Arabs to hear directly from Palestinia­ns,” March said.

For months now, American colleges and universiti­es have been roiled by tensions related to the war in Gaza. Last month’s dustup over Iriqat’s invitation to Harvard was viewed by many as a test case for whether universiti­es are capable of hosting civil and educationa­l discussion­s about the Israeli-Palestinia­n conflict following the worst massacre of Jewish people since the Holocaust, and amid the ongoing war in Gaza that has killed more than 30,000 people.

Masoud said he approached the conversati­on with Iriqat carefully, given the concerns about rising antisemiti­sm on Harvard’s campus.

“Antisemiti­sm is a serious problem, and I don’t want to be seen as contributi­ng to antisemiti­sm on our campus,” Masoud said. “I thought that her comments were very reflective of the mainstream Palestinia­n frustratio­n with the Netanyahu government and with their lack of freedom and self determinat­ion.”

There were moments during the event that underscore­d the fraught nature of the conversati­on. Masoud fielded questions from audience members, including from students who submitted questions ahead of time. An Israeli in the audience asked Iriqat whether Palestinia­n leaders should reject the approach of Hamas and offer a “more constructi­ve approach,” to achieving a two-state solution.

One student Masoud called on said that he had decided not to ask his question because he felt that Iriqat lacked integrity.

“I wish that he had asked his question, or asked a question that was pointed and explained why he thought she lacked integrity,” Masoud said. “What was it that she said that he felt was beyond the pale? I think that was a missed opportunit­y.”

Near the end of the discussion, Masoud started sensing frustratio­n from audience members who were eager for the chance to pose a question to Iriqat. Some people started talking out of turn.

“They want to kill us all,” one audience member said.

“Everybody, please,” Masoud said. “Please help me, because I’ve been trying to tell the world that we can have these conversati­ons at Harvard like adults, and we’re gonna do it.”

 ?? BENN CRAIG/HARVARD UNIVERSITY ?? Dalal Iriqat, a Palestinia­n academic (left), and Harvard professor Tarek Masoud during the speaker series Thursday.
BENN CRAIG/HARVARD UNIVERSITY Dalal Iriqat, a Palestinia­n academic (left), and Harvard professor Tarek Masoud during the speaker series Thursday.

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