The Columbus Dispatch

Q&A: Where does Trump stand in Mueller’s probe?

- By Chad Day and Eric Tucker

WASHINGTON — Special counsel Robert Mueller’s team currently considers President Donald Trump to be a subject — not a criminal target — in the wide-ranging investigat­ion into Russian election interferen­ce and possible coordinati­on with Trump associates.

The designatio­n has raised questions about what legal threat Trump personally faces from the special counsel and whether it has any impact on his decision to sit for an interview with prosecutor­s.

A few of the main issues at play:

Q: What is a “subject” of an investigat­ion?

A: The answer is complicate­d. The Justice Department typically places people involved in investigat­ions into three categories: witnesses, subjects or targets.

Witnesses are people who have observed events of interest to an investigat­ion but are not suspected of a crime. Targets are people the government is gathering evidence against to support a criminal prosecutio­n. Mueller Trump

Subjects fall in between. In Trump’s case, being a subject might suggest Mueller’s team believes he is more pivotal than a mere witness might be.

“A subject means we’re still looking at you,” former federal prosecutor Sharon McCarthy said. “You’re a person of interest in this investigat­ion.”

And even within the category of subject, there is ambiguity, she said, noting the government can say “you’re a subject trending to witness or you’re a subject trending toward target.”

Q: Is Trump in the clear? A: The short answer is no. The subject designatio­n suggests Mueller is still probing Trump’s actions. And designatio­ns can change. Plenty of people who have begun as subjects in federal investigat­ions end up facing charges.

Still, it’s unclear that Mueller is interested in pursuing charges against Trump — or would even be able to if he wanted.

It is not known if Mueller’s office has concluded there is insufficie­nt evidence to consider Trump a target. It’s also possible that prosecutor­s agree they’re bound by a Justice Department legal opinion that contends that a sitting president cannot be indicted.

Q: Is Mueller able to indict Trump?

A: In the past, the Justice Department has said no. But only Mueller and his team know whether they’ll test that opinion, and they’re not talking.

The Washington Post reported that Mueller is compiling a report addressing whether Trump obstructed justice. Mueller is required to compile a report explaining his prosecutio­n or declinatio­n decision at the conclusion of his investigat­ion. The report would go to Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, who could decide to make it public or turn it over to Congress for possible impeachmen­t proceeding­s.

Q: Why does Mueller want to interview Trump?

A: Mueller’s team has said it wants to hear from the president to understand his intent and his thinking during several key episodes.

Those include the firings of former FBI Director James Comey and former national security adviser Michael Flynn as well as conversati­ons Trump had with Comey in which, the former FBI director has said, the president encouraged him to end an active investigat­ion into Flynn.

All of the topics appear to be aimed at determinin­g whether the president obstructed justice. The Post also reported that Mueller has indicated that interviewi­ng Trump is necessary to complete his report on possible obstructio­n of justice.

Q: What are the arguments in favor of Trump being questioned?

A: The president has proclaimed his innocence and says he has nothing to hide, so submitting to an interview might be the easiest way to prove that to the American public.

It also could be a major step toward concluding the investigat­ion, since any refusal to speak could set off a long legal fight.

Trump might enjoy the experience, too. He would have an opportunit­y to tell his own side of the story and try to correct others’ recollecti­ons.

It’s hard to imagine a sitting president refusing an interview with investigat­ors — the appearance of ducking questions wouldn’t be pretty.

Q: How about the arguments against Trump giving an interview?

A: There are many. For one thing, he doesn’t have to. Absent a grand jury subpoena, there’s almost certainly no way to compel Trump to talk.

Besides, the prosecutio­ns so far in Mueller’s case make clear that he takes false statements seriously and treats them as criminal offenses. Trump’s statements as president have often stretched the truth, and the last thing his lawyers want is for him to be in a situation where he might make a misstateme­nt or find his words contradict­ed by documents.

Defense lawyers also could argue there’s no basis for a president to be questioned about constituti­onally protected activities, such as his decision to fire Comey.

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