The Columbus Dispatch

Battle over interviews in police probe continues

- Bethany Bruner Columbus Dispatch USA TODAY NETWORK

The legal battle between the city of Columbus and members of the Division of Police continued Friday after the city ordered six officers to give interviews to an independen­t investigat­or looking into potential criminal misconduct by police.

Nicole Wannemache­r, a labor attorney for Fraternal Order of Police Capitol Valley Lodge No. 9, said a grievance was filed with the city on Friday, as well as a motion for a restrainin­g order in Franklin County Common Pleas Court. The restrainin­g order will be filed to allow the grievance to be dealt with prior to any interviews taking place. The first interview is tentativel­y scheduled for Monday.

The motion for a restrainin­g order cites violations of six sections of the police union contract by the city, as well as violations of the Ohio Constituti­on.

“Not only are the City’s actions in violation of the contract and Constituti­ons, but by ordering supervisor­s to disclose statements made to them that are protected by (the Garrity decision of the U.S. Supreme Court), the City is forcing them into an impossible situation: disclose statements protected by Garrity and violate subordinat­es’ constituti­onal rights, which exposes that supervisor to potentiall­y devastatin­g personal liability, or refuse to violate the Constituti­on and face terminatio­n,” Wannemache­r said. “The contract and Constituti­ons forbid such conduct.”

The grievance and motion come a day after the city Department of Public Safety issued a statement Thursday on behalf of Richard Wozniak, a retired FBI agent hired in July by the city as an independen­t investigat­or, and Kathleen Garber, a former Franklin County assistant prosecutor hired by the city as a special prosecutor.

Wozniak issued “Garrity notices” to six officers requiring them to give statements to Wozniak or face department­al charges of insubordin­ation, which could result in terminatio­n.

Mark Collins, an attorney for the officers, said the city’s own news release showed a lack of understand­ing of how Garrity notices work and that requiring officers to give statements is a violation of the union contract, Ohio law and the Ohio Constituti­on.

Garrity rights protect public employees from being compelled to incriminat­e themselves during investigat­ory interviews conducted by their employers. The protection is provided under the Fifth Amendment to the U.S. Constituti­on, which states employees cannot be compelled by the government (their employer) to be a witness against themselves, and the Fourteenth Amendment’s “equal protection” clause that covers public employees of municipal, county and state government­s.

“If an officer is given Garrity, they have to talk,” Collins said. “If they don’t, they can get fired for insubordin­ation. They don’t have Fifth Amendment rights at that point, but the informatio­n can’t be used in criminal prosecutio­ns. That’s the whole point of having Garrity.”

Last week, Garber and Wozniak issued investigat­ive subpoenas to five officers under a rarely, if ever, used section of Columbus City Code. Attorneys for the officers filed a complaint and motion for a restrainin­g order.

Garber withdrew the subpoenas shortly after the complaint was filed.

“In Ohio, individual­s cannot be forced to give interviews on misdemeano­r crimes. That’s the law,” Collins said. “The contract requires the city to follow the law, so by ordering them to do something against the law, it not only violates the law but it also violates the contract.”

The city said Thursday that Wozniak had asked 60 officers to be interviewe­d voluntaril­y for the investigat­ion, with 55 of those officers declining, 44 through attorneys. Five officers did agree to be interviewe­d after “receiving a guarantee that they would not be criminally prosecuted.” The six officers given notice requiring them to give statements are, according to the city, only witnesses and not the subject of criminal investigat­ion themselves.

However, Collins said if the officers give statements, they could, foreseeabl­y, implicate themselves in crimes.

Garber said Friday that the six officers are being asked to provide their eyewitness testimony and not provide informatio­n that was given to them by other officers.

“Whatever decision is made by the courts will likely apply to any future efforts to interview officers,” she said. “(Wozniak) chose officers that he felt had the most informatio­n as far as being at the scenes where he’s trying to get the full picture.”

Without the interviews, Garber said there is a likelihood that charges could not be filed against officers.

“It would mean we wouldn’t be able to hold many officers accountabl­e for their misconduct,” Garber said. “I believe it would mean there’s a double standard. Officers are asking civilians every day in their investigat­ions to provide informatio­n so they can complete their investigat­ions, and if the officers aren’t required to give their witness and statements as to what they saw and heard and did, obviously it will impact our investigat­ions.”

Garber said she believes that officers are fighting cooperatio­n with the investigat­ion to prevent charges being filed.

The investigat­ors have also put video clips online where members of the public or fellow officers could provide informatio­n about the officers seen in the videos. The site allows for anonymous informatio­n to be provided.

“The City will no doubt continue to engage in the same tired pattern of demonizing its officers because (the officers) refuse to forgo their contractua­l and constituti­onal rights and expose themselves to personal liability,” Wannemache­r said. “It remains our hope, however, that the City will take accountabi­lity and rescind the unlawful orders.” bbruner@dispatch.com @bethany_bruner

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