He’ll be back, but not like before: Groff plays an FBI agent
His TV fans know him as Patrick in HBO’s “Looking,” and as Jesse St. James in “Glee.” His movie fans know him as the voice of Kristoff in “Frozen.” And his theater fans? They know him as the pouty, thoroughly annoyed King George in “Hamilton.”
Fans are now seeing Jonathan Groff in an entirely new sort of role — as an FBI agent, trying to get into the mind of serial killers, in the new Netflix series “Mindhunter.”
The series takes place in the 1970s and is produced, and directed in part, by David Fincher, who directed “Gone Girl” and “Zodiac.” It’s based on the book “Mindhunter: Inside the FBI’s Elite Serial Crime Unit” by John Douglas, who spent many years developing psychological profiling to probe the minds of the country’s worst killers.
AP: This character’s a departure for you. Had you ever wondered what it was like to be in law enforcement?
Groff: No. Being an actor and artist feels like the opposite. We’re emotional, we’re expressive, we’re empathetic, and playing someone in law enforcement seems like the antithesis of that — which made it really exciting. Also, the character of Holden is inquisitive, really interested in bringing psychology and sociology to law enforcement. He’s kind of the New Age FBI agent.
AP: You come from theater. What’s the difference in the two types of acting?
Groff: It’s true that in theater, you get adrenaline from the crowd, but I’ve found that, on TV, particularly something like “Mindhunter,” there’s a level of adrenaline that happens. When they say “action,” everyone’s really quiet on the set ... There isn’t a live audience, but my heart beats a little faster, and I get inspired in that space between “action” and “cut.”
AP: In theater, you can keep refining your character. Can you do that in TV?
Groff: Yes, in theater, three months into it, I’ll think, “Oh no, THIS is what it’s about! If only I’d been thinking about that during opening.” And then three months later I’m thinking, “Oh, actually it was the first thing!” You’re always refining. With David, it’s much like theater, you’re always softening or sharpening the edges and creating something really specific.
AP: That first interview with a serial killer is bone-chilling.
Groff: It’s sort of the moment everything comes into clarification. At one point, the killer asks me, “Why are you so tense?” For two days of shooting, I’d been fidgeting and doing various things, and suddenly David came over and said, “What if you don’t do anything?” It was genius.
AP: There is a “Silence of the Lambs” dynamic here, with you as the Clarice figure.
Groff: Totally. But it’s interesting, as amazing as “Silence of the Lambs” is, David wanted to blow up that notion of the comic book version of the serial killer, that brilliant omniscient genius, and really take a genuine human look at who these people are. They had mostly average IQs, and they’re just sad, (messed) up people with a damaged story.
AP: You had to leave “Hamilton” to shoot this show in Pittsburgh. Was that hard?
Groff: This opportunity was so extraordinary, it was a no-brainer. But it was bittersweet to leave the show, because I loved that group. And there was actually a moment when we were performing at the White House, (“Hamilton”) director Tommy Kail was just reminding me of this, and President Obama got up impromptu and hugged everyone. And I was crying so hard.