The Denver Post

How artist-friendly is Denver?

Talking with Michael Seman about the future of our cultural scene

- By John Wenzel

As the furor over the city’s surprise evictions at undergroun­d art venue Rhinocerop­olis continues to reverberat­e, Denver officials have responded with a forum for “safe creative spaces and artspace collaborat­ion.”

Set for Jan. 18 at McNichols Civic Center Building, the community event will allow Denver Fire and Community Planning & Developmen­t board to respond directly to concerns that Denver is targeting — or at the very least discountin­g — its artists amid rapid developmen­t and gentrifica­tion in the River North neighborho­od, and elsewhere around the city.

That’s no small thing, considerin­g boosters frequently tout Denver’s art scene and local creatives as central to its reputation and economic health.

Metro Denver’s cultural scene generated $1.8 billion in spending last year, according to the Colorado Business Committee for the Arts. Moreover, Colorado ranked No. 1 in a recent report from the National Endowment for the Arts for the percentage of residents who personally perform or create artworks (with 64.6 percent of adults).

But as Ray Mark Rinaldi wrote in a Denver Post op-ed last week, “There’s also a broader realizatio­n that Denver has been living a lie, acting like a place that’s friendly to the art community while giving it the shaft.”

Enter Michael Seman, a newly appointed researcher at The University of Colorado Denver’s College of Arts and Media, whose job is to examine how the city and state will continue to grow as a cultural hub.

Seman’s unusual background — as a former Hollywood industry insider and promoter, and a still-active writer and musician — would not seem to provide a direct path to a Ph.D. in urban planning and public policy.

The 48-year-old, who moved to Denver from Denton, Texas, in October, will also be working an odd job here. From his position at CU Denver, Seman will collaborat­e with city machinery like Denver Arts & Venues and Colorado Creative Industries, the state’s art council, to gather data and “inform policy makers how future investment in creative industries will contribute to overall economic growth,” according to CU.

He’s what you might call a big thinker, or generously, a visionary. But is he an objective scholar or a civic booster? An artist or a critic?

The following conversati­on is compiled and edited from several phone and e-mail interviews with Seman over the past few weeks.

Q: Before we dive in, can you tell us what qualifies you for this job?

A: I worked at CAA (Creative Artist Agency, in Beverly Hills, Calif.) from about 1996 to 2003 and worked my way up from the guy who made color copies to an executive who worked with internal projects and “cultural intelligen­ce.” That involved matching entertainm­ent entities with corporate entities, so things like Harry Potter with Coca-Cola. I was also developing the Warped Tour and playing in a band ( Shiny Around the Edges). I did all I wanted to do there and ended up in Denton, Texas, where I went back to graduate school for urban geogra-

phy because I was fascinated by cities.

Q: That sort of research would seem to play into what you’re doing here.

A:

I based my master’s thesis on Saddle Creek Records’ $10.2 million mixed-used urban developmen­t project ( Slowdown) in Omaha that catalyzed an entire area of the city. It hit a nerve for me because no one had really looked at that before: how urban artists and musicians had helped redevelopm­ent. I learned to explain to people at the policy level why music scenes were important for their city, and one way of doing that is through the language of economics. My Ph.D. dissertati­on, based on the framework of Harvard economist Michael Porter, was “What if Hewlett-Packard had started a band?”

Q: What have you learned that’s applicable to Denver?

A:

Music scenes are more than just a collection of musicians and venue owners. It’s really a group of people — artists, photograph­ers, designers and other creatives, plus teachers, real estate advisers, nonprofit administra­tors — who are educated or highly skilled and helping a city move forward. It’s important to understand when looking at an intertwine­d economy that what helps one cultural scene could very well be helping another, and more broadly, the city’s economy.

Q: And it looks like you’ve also explored that concept in your writing?

A:

I got a book deal with the University of Texas Press and at the same time was writing for The Atlantic’s CityLab and looking at this phenomenon across the country. Richard Florida (who coined the term creative class) and I became friendly and started working together as I began giving talks across the country. This whole idea of bringing cultural producers like musicians and policy makers to the same table helps them realize they both want the same things and can help each other. And honestly, most of the time it’s not expensive, if it costs anything at all. It’s just a matter of understand­ing the value from both sides.

A: What are you most interested in learning in Denver?

Q:

One of the reasons I was really excited to come to Denver is that I’m fascinated by the power that all-ages, DIY venues have, and how they harness the younger people that are emerging as musicians and artists. I’m also interested in how that is connecting with technologi­cal creation. New York City has the Silent Barn, an all-ages, DIY venue but also somewhat of a maker space and incubator for technology. All-ages scenes are the minor leagues. That is where your talent is blossoming within your city. Some cities are really embracing that, like Seattle or places in Michigan.

Q: Let’s talk about Rhinocerop­olis, which was raided in response to the Oakland warehouse fire that killed 36 people. What’s the viability of relying on places like these for artistic regenerati­on when they’re so clearly vulnerable to disaster, or at least closure?

A:

It’s still completely viable to rely on DIY spaces as incubators of innovation in the arts, as important foundation pieces of a city’s creative economy, and as developers of communitie­s with city-wide networks. However, in a time when economic forces are rapidly reshaping the downtown cores of many cities across the country, those who run these spaces and local government­s need to take steps to ensure they become less vulnerable to precarious situations.

Q: How do they do that? A:

It may require thinking in a broader geographic framework and relocating to less expansive space outside of the city’s core, setting up the organizati­on as a nonprofit, partnering with another arts organizati­on that is a nonprofit, connecting with philanthro­pic-minded individual­s and organizati­ons that could provide guidance and support. In the case of offering living space, a re-examinatio­n of the risks and benefits associated with that option. It will most likely require a mix of all of the above.

Q: Writer and activist Bree Davies has called Denver’s recent actions a “witch hunt on DIY.” Are you worried you’ll be perceived as being in the city’s pocket?

A:

The fact that many in Denver and nationwide were immediatel­y and passionate­ly vocal in their displeasur­e of the abrupt closing of Rhinocerop­olis was not surprising, and affirming of how important these spaces are to the extended communitie­s that form around them. This passion could never undermine my goals, it simply puts an added spotlight on them and further encourages me to do what I can to facilitate the continued life of these spaces in Denver.

Q: It’s also not as simple as “the city wants to shut us down,” I imagine.

A:

Yes, it was a city department that took action to temporaril­y shutter Rhinocerop­olis and its sister-space, Glob, for code violations. At the same time, others in the city and in the administra­tive body guiding the RiNo Arts District, while not aware of the structural details of the spaces, were aware of the legacy and value these particular spaces afford the district and city and have been considerin­g ways to help them continue as a vital piece of the area’s cultural landscape.

Q: As an academic, does it undermine your work to know your research is being used by government leaders?

A:

I am trained as a social scientist (meaning) that when dealing with data — quantitati­ve or qualitativ­e — I have learned to bring no bias to the interpreta­tion and analysis. I want the city to work together with creative producers to benefit both. Sugar-coating anything or obscuring facts is not going to help either side.

Q: What’s happening in Denver now — the gentrifica­tion and redevelopm­ent, the artistic soul-searching — has a precedent in cities like Austin, Texas, and Portland, Ore. What’s different about Denver?

A:

The advantage that Denver has is that it can look to cities like Austin, Portland, and Seattle and see how rapid growth threatened, and sometimes harmed, their creative scenes, what local policymake­rs have or haven’t done to mitigate certain situations, and proactivel­y address issues that threaten the sustainabi­lity of its creative economy.

Q: The city’s already done some of those things, of course, but it still feels like we’re at a precipice in some ways.

A:

Unfortunat­ely when you’re “discovered,” real estate valuation goes hand-in-hand with having a really thriving economy. Denver has very progressiv­e people who are cognizant of that, and I’m really interested in learning how to mitigate those effects of marginaliz­ation of artists and residents, perhaps through policy. You can call it the pioneer spirit, but Denver seems willing to address these issues and really try to create a sustainabl­e city for everyone. I mean, I’m a transplant, too. But I hope I can be a positive influence.

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Michael Seman stands for a portrait at his office on the Auraria campus. Denver Arts & Venues has joined with CU Denver to appoint Seman as the first-ever researcher tasked with growing the city’s creative economy. RJ Sangosti, The Denver Post
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