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Will autonomous driving spell the end of the sports car?

- By Kyle Stock Q: Mazda is so focused on driving and racing, how is the company thinking about autonomy? Moro: Q: So, the system is in the background? A: Q: Never? A: Never. Q: And you can make that decision because Mazda isn’t a large player? A: Q:

The robot drivers are coming.

Virtually every brand in the auto industry is bragging about its autonomous driving capabiliti­es. In four years, some Fords will even skip the steering wheel entirely. But at least two big names aren’t jumping on the bandwagon just yet. When it comes to “the future of transporta­tion,” Mazda and Porsche got the memo — they just decided to go another way.

Mazda, for one, is sticking to its mantra: “Driving Matters” and doubling down on transmissi­ons tied to stick shifts. Porsche, meanwhile, sold more than 15,000 two-door sports cars in the U.S. last year, 28 percent of its transactio­ns. Its storied 911 model now comes in 21 configurat­ions, from the base “Carrera” to the nervy new GT3 shown at the New York auto show last week.

We sat down with the North American CEOs for both brands — Mazda’s Masahiro Moro and Porsche’s Klaus Zellmer — to figure out where robots

Efit in at companies built on steering, speed and passion. We spoke with Moro first.

It’s a key technology for all manufactur­ers, and Mazda agrees it’s going to be very important. We have full-scale autonomy in developmen­t right now. But how we apply this technology will be a little unique. We believe driving pleasure should never die. And we’re selling our products to a core customer who loves driving.

We’ll always take a human-centric approach. The driver will have control and we’ll try to improve peace of mind. If anything happens to the driver, the system will override immediatel­y to bring the car to a safe place.

Yes. Mazda’s vision of autonomous driving is not bringing you from A to B while you are reading. That’s not Mazda’s way.

ERight. Mazda is targeting a very small niche of customers. These people really like driving and, to them, a car isn’t a commodity; it’s an emotional expression of their style.

Many customers don’t care too much about driving itself, and that’s fine. We focus on a particular type of customer. Our share is 2 percent; it’s very small.

Yes, but I want to achieve a quality 2 percent, not just 2 percent. By that I mean, selling the top trims more often, higher brand loyalty, lifelong fans and a sustainabl­e dealer network.

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Later, we spoke with Porsche’s Zellmer. ago, if you raised the question in a town hall environmen­t: “Who thinks Porsche should go into autonomous driving?” Amongst 300 people, you probably saw two raise their hands. It’s much more now.

But if you think about it, autonomous driving started decades ago with cruise control, adaptive cruise control, with lane-keeping assist. Of course, we’ll have an autonomous drive mode in all of our cars. You will be able to press that button and the car will take you home, because our customers also experience traffic situations they don’t enjoy and they want to do something else. That does not conflict with grabbing the steering wheel and doing the manual shifting.

You have to let the customers choose. We’ll deliver customers the possibilit­y of autonomous driving mode.

That’s a question we discuss internally, and we do so exactly how you put it. If you imagine a supermarke­t parking lot with 1,000 vehicles. Right now, three of those are Porsches. Are we still something special? Are we still exclusive? Yes. It’s more the way you handle growth than defining a number that we shouldn’t exceed.

Look at the new Macan (SUV), which adds a lot of volume to our business model. At the same time, we introduced the 918 Spyder (sports car). If you look at your business as a pyramid and you add something to widen the bottom, you have to make sure that you stay in that top-notch corner as well with something that helps people understand that this brand is still, technologi­cally speaking, the best. And the 918 Spyder sort of counterwei­ghts increasing that footprint.

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