The Denver Post

Giuliani: Manafort has nothing that hurts Trump

- By Carol D. Leonnig and Tom Hamburger

President Donald Trump’s lead lawyer said Monday that attorneys for his former campaign chairman Paul Manafort have reiterated that the president has nothing to fear from Manafort’s cooperatio­n with federal investigat­ors.

Trump attorney Rudolph Giuliani said that Manafort’s legal team assured him as recently as Saturday — the day after Manafort struck a plea deal with special counsel Robert Mueller — that he has no informatio­n that will incriminat­e the president or his family, including eldest son Donald Trump Jr.

Giuliani said he also thinks that Manafort has no evidence to suggest the Trump campaign colluded with Russians.

“We’ve talked to their side,” Giuliani said. “The statement is, there is nothing that is adverse to the president, the Trump family, the Trump campaign.”

Giuliani declined to name who provided the assurances, but two people briefed on the discussion­s said Manafort attorney Kevin Downing has been in contact with Trump’s lawyers.

Downing did not respond to a request for comment. Manafort spokesman Jason Maloni declined to comment.

Manafort had been in a longstandi­ng joint defense agreement with Trump and other witnesses in the special counsel investigat­ion. Plea deals such as the one he struck Friday typically sever such agreements.

Legal experts expressed skepticism that Manafort, who has pledged his full cooperatio­n with prosecutor­s, could be confident that he does not have informatio­n that could assist Muller’s investigat­ion of Trump. The special counsel has been examining contacts between Trump aides and Russians, as well as whether the president sought to obstruct the investigat­ion into Russia’s interferen­ce in the 2016 campaign.

“No one can know whether what Manafort knows could be harmful,” said Stephen Gillers, a New York University law professor who specialize­s in legal ethics. “It is not credible that his lawyers would make this representa­tion now.”

Trump has asked his lawyers for their advice in the past about a pardon for Manafort, along with other aides accused of wrongdoing. Last month, Trump’s lawyers counseled the president against the idea of pardoning anyone during the investigat­ion.

On Friday, Manafort pleaded guilty to conspiring to defraud the United States and conspiring to obstruct justice, a dramatic reversal that was viewed as an ominous developmen­t for Trump and his allies.

As a cooperatin­g witness, Manafort is now required to share all he knows with Mueller.

Manafort had a frontrow seat to key events being scrutinize­d by the special counsel, including a June 2016 Trump Tower meeting during which Trump Jr. expected to get “dirt” on Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton.

Attorneys for Trump and other witnesses familiar with Manafort’s account are confident that his testimony will not contradict their statements, according to people familiar with their discussion­s.

Giuliani said Monday that he and fellow Trump attorney Jay Sekulow have had ongoing conversati­ons with Manafort’s legal team that date back to before his trial earlier this summer in Virginia.

Still, some advisers worry that Mueller would not have agreed to a deal with Manafort unless the longtime lobbyist had informatio­n that would be valuable to his investigat­ion.

Some allies of the president think Manafort’s knowledge about influentia­l Russian figures and proRussian Ukrainian leaders could help Mueller describe Russian efforts to penetrate the Trump campaign or illegally interfere in the election.

“For them to give him a cooperatio­n deal, he has to have something pretty good,” said one person involved in the case who requested anonymity to speak about the ongoing investigat­ion. “So what is that?”

 ??  ??
 ??  ??

Newspapers in English

Newspapers from United States