Reynolds says Trump can’t win, gives DeSantis her endorsement
Calls Fla. governor ‘right person at the right time’
Iowa Gov. Kim Reynolds is endorsing Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis for president, she told the Des Moines Register Monday, because the country is at an “unprecedented” moment and Republicans can’t gamble on another Donald Trump candidacy.
“We are living in unprecedented times, and this country is in trouble,” Reynolds said, sitting next to DeSantis at her Terrace Hill home in Des Moines ahead of an evening rally where she’ll make the endorsement publicly. “I cannot believe how it has declined over just the short time under President Biden. And we’re resilient. We’ll be able to come back from this. But if we don’t win this next election, we’re done.”
Reynolds, who had been a Trump ally when he held the White House, said she appreciates the former president’s accomplishments but believes it’s time to move on.
“I don’t think he can win,” she said simply.
Instead, she’s throwing her support behind DeSantis, a fellow governor who she said has an admirable track record of accomplishment in Florida that he would bring to the nation as president.
“I believe he’s the candidate that can win,” she said. “And we also not only need somebody that can win, but we need somebody that has the skill and the resolve, which he clearly does, to reverse the madness that we see happening across this country.”
Currently, Trump leads the latest Des Moines Register/NBC News/ Mediacom Iowa Poll with 43% support among likely Republican caucusgoers. DeSantis is tied for second place with former United Nations Ambassador Nikki Haley at 16%.
Reynolds said she believes DeSantis can win the Iowa caucuses, regardless of the current polling, and she hopes to tout his achievements around the state.
“Ron’s moving the needle,” she said. “I’m just here to tell his story — to make sure people look at the record and know what he’s done and why I believe that he’s the right person for this job, the right person at the right time. And so I’m going to tell it over and over, and I’m not going to miss an opportunity to do that. When I’m in, I’m all in.”
DeSantis said that nearly every person who shows up to caucus on Jan. 15 knows and respects Reynolds, which speaks to the value of her endorsement.
“As a mother and as a grandmother and as an American, I just felt like I couldn’t stand on the sidelines any longer. We have too much at stake. Our country is in a world of hurt. The world is a powder keg. And I think it’s just really important that we put the right person in office.” Gov. Kim Reynolds
An August, Des Moines Register/NBC News Iowa Poll found that 81% of likely Republican caucusgoers viewed her favorably, including 50% who viewed her very favorably. Another 18% viewed her unfavorably and 1% were not sure. That’s better than any of the GOP presidential candidates fared.
“She told me she wants to be active, and so we obviously welcome that,” DeSantis said. “She’s the best surrogate you can have in the state, of course. But also, you know, I told her, my wife and me, we’re workhorses. So if there’s something you recommend — go speak to this group, go speak to that (one) — you tell us, we want to be there. We want to earn the vote.”
DeSantis told the Register that Reynolds’ endorsement is noteworthy, not only because of the star power she brings to the race, but because he believes Iowa and Florida represent the future of the party.
“It’s meaningful to me, because this is really the model I think that the Republican Party can use to succeed going forward,” DeSantis said of Reynolds’ endorsement. “What Kim’s done here, what we’ve done in Florida, Brian Kemp in Georgia — these are states that used to be viewed as very competitive, and we’ve been able to win really, really big victories. And I think it’s because of leadership and then results.”
Trump has already lashed out at Reynolds in a string of social media posts, accusing her of being “disloyal” and arguing her endorsement of DeSantis is “the end of her political career.”
DeSantis defended Reynolds against Trump and his loyalists, some of whom have called her a RINO, or a “Republican in name only.”
“I think what some of these influencers will say is, if you don’t kiss the ring for Trump for 2024, then somehow you’re a RINO,” he said. “You have some people that have horrendous records, but if they kiss the ring, somehow they’re great. Like, that is not good posture. Because we’re in this, not for personality, we’re in it to deliver results for people. … And so I think that when Trump is attacking really strong, accomplished Republicans for self-serving reasons, that’s a dead end for the Republican Party.”
Reynolds agreed. “That is destructive to the party,” she said.
It’s rare, though not unprecedented, for Iowa’s top elected officials to weigh in on behalf of candidates ahead of the caucuses. U.S. Sen. Chuck Grassley endorsed his good friend, U.S. Sen. Bob Dole, in 1988 and 1996, and former Gov. Terry Branstad encouraged Iowans to caucus for anyone but U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz in 2016.
But it’s far more common for Iowa’s high-profile political figures to take a hands-off approach. Grassley and others have pledged to remain neutral this cycle.
Reynolds, too, had initially ruled out endorsing anyone ahead of the Iowa Caucuses, saying she preferred to welcome the full slate of candidates into the state. But, more recently, she opened the door to the possibility.
She said Monday that she believes she fulfilled her duty by welcoming all the candidates to the state and helping give them a platform to reach Iowans.
“For seven months I did that — attended a lot of events, made a lot of phone calls, helped talk about events to go to and to be in front of,” she said.
Ultimately, though, she said she felt called to step in.
“As a mother and as a grandmother and as an American, I just felt like I couldn’t stand on the sidelines any longer,” she said. “We have too much at stake. Our country is in a world of hurt. The world is a powder keg. And I think it’s just really important that we put the right person in office.”
Reynolds said she doesn’t believe her endorsement will jeopardize the future of Iowa’s first-in-the-nation caucuses, and she doesn’t believe she will alienate Iowa Republicans who continue to support Trump.
“We’ve had two other (statewide elected officials) that have also endorsed,” Reynolds said. “You’ve had a lot of legislators that have endorsed different candidates. In fact, Ron’s done pretty well with our legislators here in Iowa. But so, you know, when we’re done, when this is over, we’re Republicans and we get behind whoever our candidate is. I happen to think it’s going to be Ron DeSantis. I believe that’s who it’s going to be. But we are Republicans, and when this is done, we get behind whoever our nominee is and move forward.”
Republican Party of Iowa Chair Jeff Kaufmann said in a statement that the party itself remains committed to maintaining neutrality.
“The Republican Party of Iowa — from our staff to our Central Committee — remain committed to our neutrality pledge in the 2024 caucus and to maintaining our first-in-the-nation status. Iowa’s elected officials are free, as they’ve always been, to chart their own course when it comes to endorsing in the caucuses.”
Reynolds said the timing of her endorsement is less about strategy. She decided she wanted to endorse, and as soon as she did, she wanted to make it public.
“Once I was in, I was all in,” she said. Reynolds and DeSantis have charted similar political paths, growing their national profiles amid the COVID-19 pandemic when they led Republican states in pushing back against shutdowns and mask mandates while leaning into controversial culture war issues.
Both governors have signed laws prohibiting school instruction in LGBTQ topics and offering state-funded private school scholarships to all families. Both governors have also banned abortions after six weeks of pregnancy — Trump called the Florida version of that bill “a terrible mistake.”
Reynolds said she remembers getting a phone call from DeSantis in the midst of the COVID-19 pandemic. Both had made the decision to send kids back to classrooms and were facing a wave of backlash over a decision they still maintain was the right one.
The pair talked about “what we were going through” and “having the moral conviction to do the right thing when the right thing is not easy to do,” Reynolds said.
More recently, when Reynolds’ husband, Kevin, was diagnosed with lung cancer, she got another phone call from DeSantis and his wife, Casey, who previously battled breast cancer. They were among the first to reach out, Reynolds said. DeSantis offered to connect Reynolds to doctors, and Casey came to visit to talk about her experience with Reynolds and her husband.
“Not only is he tough and disciplined, but he’s compassionate and cares,” Reynolds said.
DeSantis has previously suggested that Reynolds could be a good running mate. He said Monday that he continues to believe she would be a good pick, but he perhaps underestimated the number of Iowans who want to keep her in the state.
“Bottom line is she’s qualified for the positions that have been mentioned,” he said. “But I also respect Iowans in terms of their views on some of this stuff too.”
Reynolds said governors continue to play a big role in guiding the country forward, and DeSantis would need strong governors if he takes office.
“I’m focused on, really, on this next cycle, and I’m focused on serving Iowans and getting this guy elected,” she said. “That’s what I’m focused on.”