The Guardian (USA)

Capitol attack panel grapples with moving inquiry forward: to subpoena or not?

- Hugo Lowell in Washington

The House select committee investigat­ing the Capitol attack is weighing whether to subpoena some of Donald Trump’s top allies on Capitol Hill as it considers its options on how aggressive­ly it should pursue testimony to move forward its inquiry into the January 6 insurrecti­on.

The Republican House minority leader, Kevin McCarthy, and Republican members of Congress Jim Jordan and Scott Perry may have inside knowledge about Trump’s plan to stop the certificat­ion of Joe Biden’s election and whether it was coordinate­d with the Capitol attack.

But the outright refusal of McCarthy and the other Republican lawmakers to testify voluntaril­y with the investigat­ion has intensifie­d discussion­s among the panel’s members and investigat­ors about whether to force their cooperatio­n.

The select committee is undecided on whether to take that near-unpreceden­ted step, in part because of one major concern that has emerged in recent days, according to two sources familiar with the matter: Republican retaliatio­n against Biden and Democrats in future inquiries.

In private conversati­ons, some members and investigat­ors on the select committee have expressed how appalled they are at the refusal of McCarthy and the Republican lawmakers to help the investigat­ion, and feel prepared to subpoena for their testimony, the sources said.

But the one major recurring worry raised in discussion­s, the sources said, is that subpoenas might create moral hazard of Republican­s plotting an onslaught of partisan investigat­ions into the Biden administra­tion should they retake the House after the 2022 midterms – as many observers think likely.

Republican­s in Congress have openly floated the prospect in recent days of launching political investigat­ions into the Biden administra­tion’s coronaviru­s response, the withdrawal from Afghanista­n, the personal life of Biden’s son Hunter, as well as an impeachmen­t inquiry.

In response, some members and investigat­ors on the select committee have quietly raised the possibilit­y that if the panel declines to subpoena Republican­s now, then a Republican majority might not subpoena Democrats in the future, the sources said.

The issue has proved a difficult conundrum for the select committee, which started serious discussion­s about subpoenas to Republican­s after Jordan and Perry refused to cooperate, and escalated the urgency of talks after McCarthy also declined to help the inquiry.

The panel was particular­ly outraged by McCarthy’s refusal and his statement attacking their request for an interview as “abuse of power” and intensifie­d its research into parliament­ary rules governing their ability to authorize subpoenas, the sources said.

Even in the absence of any formal decision, the possibilit­y of subpoenas has become a touch point as the select committee grapples with the so-called speech and debate clause in the constituti­on that shields lawmakers while they perform their official duties.

The clause says lawmakers “shall not be questioned in any other place” about speech or debate, and is generally interprete­d to cover all legislativ­e actions – which Republican­s argue precludes them from having to answer the select committee’s investigat­ion.

But the members on the panel believe the law does not extend to protect lawmakers from Congress’s own investigat­ions, rejecting the idea that McCarthy, Jordan and Perry have any claim to immunity as the panel investigat­es whether Trump oversaw a criminal conspiracy.

There is also precedent for the House to subpoena its own members. The House ethics committee, which investigat­es allegation­s of wrongdoing by members of Congress, for instance has the authority under House rules to subpoena lawmakers – orders they cannot refuse.

A spokespers­on for the select committee declined to comment on internal discussion­s about how aggressive­ly the panel might act to secure cooperatio­n from McCarthy, or whether counsel for the panel has reached a determinat­ion on the matter.

Congressma­n Bennie Thompson, the chairman of the select committee, previously said in his request for cooperatio­n to McCarthy that the panel was interested in details about McCarthy’s conversati­ons with Trump before, during and after the Capitol attack.

But it is also not immediatel­y clear whether McCarthy would have substantia­lly new informatio­n to share with House investigat­ors beyond what is already public – meaning the marginal benefit to getting his testimony may not outweigh the potential political consequenc­es.

There remains a possibilit­y that McCarthy, Perry and Jordan might cooperate with the select committee in the event of a subpoena, using the potential legal threat to justify their reversals to Trump, who the Guardian reported last month is agitated by the investigat­ion.

If the select committee decides it has the authority and resolve to issue subpoenas, the sources said, then the primary remaining question would probably be a matter of timing, and when best in the investigat­ion the panel should force their cooperatio­n.

But the worry about Republican retaliatio­n reflects the select committee’s recognitio­n that the stakes of issuing subpoenas to Republican lawmakers and McCarthy, the man poised to become speaker in 2022 should his party retake the House majority, could not be higher.

Additional concerns have centered on the ability to enforce subpoenas to Republican lawmakers if the select committee did take that step, and whether a federal judge would countenanc­e becoming mired in what is essentiall­y becoming a partisan fight in Congress.

Congressma­n Adam Schiff, a member of the select committee, suggested on MSNBC the panel, for that reason, would probably not pursue criminal contempt of Congress proceeding­s with recalcitra­nt lawmakers as it did with Trump’s former aides Mark Meadows and Steve Bannon.

Moving ahead with criminal contempt of Congress against the Republican lawmakers would mark an escalation that tests the limits of congressio­nal subpoenas, threatenin­g to touch

off a legal fight the panel might not have time to conclude as it races to finish its report.

The former Republican chairman of the House oversight committee, Trey Gowdy – who also oversaw the inquiry into former secretary of state Hillary Clinton’s emails – demurred on subpoenain­g Democrats over concerns about enforceabi­lity, a source close to Gowdy said.

Gowdy faced internal pressure from the House Republican conference for his reluctance to subpoena Democrats, the source said, but that was in part to make sure lawmakers would not defang the power of congressio­nal subpoenas if they simply refused to comply.

That leaves the select committee with only a handful of options, which appear to rest on a gamble over whether it can shame Republican­s into cooperatin­g, including a formal resolution on the House floor censuring or admonishin­g the lawmakers.

 ?? Ken Cedeno/UPI/Rex/Shuttersto­ck ?? Kevin McCarthy, the Republican House minority leader, has refused to testify voluntaril­y with the Capitol attack committee. Photograph:
Ken Cedeno/UPI/Rex/Shuttersto­ck Kevin McCarthy, the Republican House minority leader, has refused to testify voluntaril­y with the Capitol attack committee. Photograph:

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