The Guardian (USA)

Politician­s from Germany’s AfD met extremist group to discuss deportatio­n ‘masterplan’

- Philip Oltermann in Berlin

Politician­s from Germany’s far-right Alternativ­e für Deutschlan­d (AfD) party, including a personal aide to its leader Alice Weidel, met the head of the rightwing extremist Identitari­an Movement and neo-Nazi activists to discuss a “masterplan” for mass deportatio­ns in the event of the party coming to power, it has been reported.

The meeting, which was first reported on Wednesday by the investigat­ive outlet Correctiv, took place last November at a countrysid­e hotel on the outskirts of Potsdam. It is likely to feed a fraught debate over whether the AfD should be banned due to growing concerns that it poses a fundamenta­l threat to German democracy.

Buoyed up by discontent over immigratio­n, the AfD is polling in first place in all five of Germany’s eastern states, three of which are holding elections later this year. While both the conservati­ve Christian Democratic Union (CDU) and the liberal, pro-business Free Democratic party (FDP) have, for now, ruled out entering coalitions with the party, its presence at the meeting suggests a far-right organisati­on with its eye on political gains in the near future.

Invitation­s seen by Correctiv and the Guardian describe the meeting as an opportunit­y to present “an overall concept in the sense of a masterplan”. The meeting was attended not only by two state and municipal-level AfD politician­s but also one active member of the Bundestag, Gerrit Huy, as well as Roland Hartwig, a former MP who has acted as a personal aide to Weidel since September 2022. One party branch of the AfD’s has described Hartwig as being tasked with the party’s “strategic positionin­g”.

The AfD figures were meeting with

Martin Sellner, who was tasked with introducin­g the “masterplan” and is a key figure in the pan-European “New Right” and who, in 2019, was permanentl­y barred from entering the UK because of his extremist views. The Identitari­an Movement, whose Austrian branch Sellner used to lead, openly opposes the idea of multicultu­ral societies and expounds the conspiracy theory of a “great replacemen­t” to replace Europe’s white population with people from Africa and the Middle East.

The Identitari­an Movement is on a list of organisati­ons whose membership the AfD considers incompatib­le with party membership, and the party has denied ties to the movement in the past. However, in recent years the AfD has done little to distance itself from the activist network.

One key idea that Sellner has been trying to nudge into the political mainstream is “re-migration”: the forceful return of migrants to their countries of origin via mass deportatio­ns. Such deportatio­ns would target not only asylum seekers but, as Sellner elaborated in a recent article for the New Right journal Sezession, also citizens holding German passports who, he claims, “form aggressive, rapidly growing parallel societies”.

According to Correctiv’s account, the explosive subject of “re-migration” apparently dominated the discussion­s between AfD politician­s and rightwing extremist activists, with Sellner allegedly presenting the forcible extraditio­n of “non-assimilate­d” German citizens as the biggest “challenge” if the AfD were to gain power.

Ideas discussed at the meeting, according to Correctiv, included that of deportatio­ns to an unnamed state in northern Africa that would provide space for up to 2 million people. People who lobby on behalf of refugees in Germany could also go there, Sellner is reported to have suggested.

In a statement sent to the Guardian, Sellner confirmed he had presented the idea of “re-migration” at the meeting but said it was not about a “secret masterplan” and his comments had been shortened and taken out of context.

During the meeting, Sellner said, he had made it “unmistakab­ly clear that no distinctio­n can be made between different types of [German] citizens – that there must be no second-class citizens – and that all re-migration measures have to be legal”.

“Remigratio­n also includes not only deportatio­ns, but also local assistance, Leitkultur[‘guiding culture’] and pressure to assimilate. The demand is part of an alternativ­e migration and family policy, the aim of which is to control immigratio­n so that it does not exceed Germany’s reception limits.”

Huy, the AfD Bundestag delegate, is reported to have claimed that she developed her own “re-migration” concept, and appeared to suggest her party no longer opposed the government’s plan to lift a ban on dual citizenshi­p for that reason. “Then you can take away the German [citizenshi­p], and they still have one,” she is alleged to have said at the meeting. Currently it is illegal under German law to strip people of citizenshi­p if it means they would then become stateless.

In a phone call with the Guardian, Huy confirmed her attendance of the meeting and that the discussion of “remigratio­n” was on the agenda. “In 2017, I presented my party associatio­n chairman with plans for a re-migration programme for non-German nationals who can’t find their way into the labour market, which were not picked up by the party,” Huy said. “I still stand by those proposals.”

Huy said she could not remember if plans for the removal of German nationals were also part of the discussion­s at the Potsdam meeting. Her comments on dual citizenshi­p, she said, “were clearly meant as a joke”.

Contacted by Correctiv and the Guardian, neither Weidel nor Hartwig commented on the report. The AfD confirmed that Hartwig had been at the meeting but said the reported proposals were not party policy.

“The AfD won’t change its position on immigratio­n policy because of a single opinion at a non-AfD meeting,” the party told Reuters.

The AfD’s gradual transforma­tion from an economical­ly liberal, anti-euro party into what many believe to be a far-right outfit is not new. In the three eastern states where the party could triumph at elections this year – Saxony, Saxony-Anhalt, and Thuringia – the party has been classified as “certified rightwing extremist” by the German domestic spy agency, allowing its covert surveillan­ce and potentiall­y even infiltrati­on. The party, however, denies that it is extremist.

Postwar Germany defines itself as a “militant democracy”, and its constituti­onal court can shut down political parties if they pursue anti-constituti­onal goals – and are in a position to achieve these goals. In recent weeks, some politician­s, such as the co-leader of Olaf Scholz’s Social Democrats (SDP), have called for a debate about whether the constituti­onal court should consider such a ban for the AfD.

Others, including the SPD’s federal commission­er for the east, Carsten Schneider, have said that such a move could backfire by further radicalisi­ng AfD supporters, especially if the constituti­onal court were to reject a ban.

In practice, the bar for outright party bans is relatively high. In 2017, Germany’s top constituti­onal court ruled that even though the radicalrig­ht NPD resembled Adolf Hitler’s Nazi party, it would not be banned because it did not pose a sufficient threat to democracy.

 ?? Christian Bruna/EPA ?? Martin Sellner, a key figure in the panEuropea­n ‘New Right’, who is banned from the UK, reportedly spoke about mass deportatio­n at the Potsdam meeting. Photograph:
Christian Bruna/EPA Martin Sellner, a key figure in the panEuropea­n ‘New Right’, who is banned from the UK, reportedly spoke about mass deportatio­n at the Potsdam meeting. Photograph:
 ?? Photograph: SOPA Images/LightRocke­t/Getty Images ?? Rightwing parties such as the Alternativ­e für Deutschlan­d (AfD) have been buoyed up by discontent over immigratio­n.
Photograph: SOPA Images/LightRocke­t/Getty Images Rightwing parties such as the Alternativ­e für Deutschlan­d (AfD) have been buoyed up by discontent over immigratio­n.

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