The Mercury News Weekend

Trump met with Pence before holiday break

- By Pamela Brown and Kevin Liptak

Hours before President Donald Trump retweeted a message for his vice president to “act” in stopping the ratificati­on of the Electoral College, he met for more than an hour in the Oval Office with Mike Pence, whom he has complained recently isn’t doing enough to support his bid to overturn the election.

The discussion was “entirely unrelated” to the eventual tweet, one person familiar with the matter said, though would not specify whether the issue of the Jan. 6 ratificati­on in Congress arose. The two men went separate ways for the holiday.

As Trump enters the holiday stretch as fixated as ever on overturnin­g the results of the election, the Electoral College certificat­ion is becoming a focal point for his efforts.

On Wednesday evening, as he was flying to Florida for his vacation, Trump retweeted a call from one of his supporters for Pence to refuse to ratify the Electoral College results on Jan. 6 — a prospect that has captured his imaginatio­n even if it remains completely impossible.

Trump’s personal attorney Rudy Giuliani was with Trump aboard Air Force One before the president sent out the tweet. Giuliani is joining Trump at his

Mar-a-Lago estate for the holidays, where the men are expected to discuss their election efforts.

Arriving at his golf club Thursday afternoon, Trump received a warm welcome from members and vowed to continue fighting to overturn the election, a person familiar with the matter said.

“He’s very resolute in continuing to want to fight the Electoral College,” this person said. “And he still thinks it’s not over.”

Later, he spent much of Christmas Eve tweeting grievances, including one aimed at Senate Republican­s, vowing that he will “NEVER FORGET!” what he sees as their abandonmen­t.

Trump has told people recently that Pence isn’t doing enough to fight for him as his presidency ends, and has recently taken an interest in Pence’s traditiona­l role during the certificat­ion. As president of the Senate, Pence presides over the proceeding­s.

Sources say Trump in recent days has brought the matter up to the vice president and has been “confused” as to why Pence can’t overturn the results of the election on Jan. 6.

Pence and White House aides have tried to explain to him that his role is more of a formality and he cannot unilateral­ly reject the Electoral College votes.

Traditiona­lly, the vice president presides over the electoral vote certificat­ion, though it’s not a requiremen­t. In 1969, then

Vice President Hubert Humphrey didn’t preside over the process since he had just lost the presidenti­al election to Richard Nixon. The president pro tempore of the Senate presided instead.

One source close to Pence said it is not seen as a good option for Republican Sen. Chuck Grassley — the current president pro tempore — to be there instead of Pence on Jan. 6.

On Tuesday, Pence spoke to a group of young conservati­ves in Florida but did not directly address his coming role. Instead he told the crowd that as the White House continues to contest the election, they will “keep fighting until every legal vote is counted” and “every illegal vote is thrown out.”

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