The Mercury News

Meadows intermedia­ry may have tried to influence Hutchinson's testimony

- By Zachary Cohen, Ryan Nobles and Annie Grayer

One of the people who may have been trying to influence Cassidy Hutchinson's testimony did so at the behest of former White House chief of staff Mark Meadows, according to multiple sources familiar with informatio­n gathered by the House select committee investigat­ing the Jan. 6, 2021, insurrecti­on.

Republican Rep. Liz Cheney of Wyoming, the vice chairwoman of the committee, brought up two examples of possible witness intimidati­on at a hearing featuring Hutchinson, who was an aide to Meadows in the Trump White House, earlier this week, without naming a witness or who made contact. Sources now tell CNN that both instances recounted by Cheney were directed at Hutchinson,

and that Hutchinson believes the messages were intended to impact her testimony. In one instance, Cheney said a witness received a call in which someone said: “(A person) let me know you have your deposition tomorrow. He wants me to let you know that he's thinking about you. He knows you're loyal, and you're going to do the right thing when you go in for your deposition.”

Multiple sources now tell CNN the witness was Hutchinson and the “person” referred to in the message, which was redacted in the version projected on a screen during the hearing, was Meadows. Ben Williamson, a spokespers­on for Meadows, denied that Meadows or anyone in his “camp” attempted to intimidate Hutchinson or influence her testimony.

“No one from Meadows camp, himself or otherwise, ever sought to intimidate or shape her conversati­ons with the committee,” Williamson told CNN.

The second example cited by the committee Tuesday — a witness statement detailing the pressure campaign from former President Donald Trump's orbit — also involved Hutchinson, the sources said.

Since Hutchinson's testimony, which revealed shocking new details about what Trump was doing in the days leading up to and on Jan. 6, questions have emerged about whether Trump and his allies have put pressure on individual­s willing to talk to the committee.

“I think most Americans know that attempting to influence witnesses to testify untruthful­ly presents very serious concerns,” Cheney said on Tuesday after presenting the messages. “We will be discussing these issues as a committee, carefully considerin­g our next steps.”

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