The Mercury News

Trump asks judge to block Pence's testimony to grand jury

- By Maggie Haberman

Former President Donald Trump has filed a motion asking a federal judge to prevent his former vice president, Mike Pence, from testifying to a grand jury about specific issues that Trump is claiming are protected by executive privilege, a person briefed on the matter said.

The filing is unsurprisi­ng — Trump's lawyers have repeatedly sought to assert executive privilege over former aides as a means of blocking testimony — but it underscore­s how much the Justice Department's attempts to get Pence to testify in the investigat­ion into Trump's efforts to cling to power may be drawn out.

The filing was made Friday, according to the person briefed on the matter. Its existence was first reported by CNN.

Trump did not respond for comment.

Pence recently was subpoenaed for grand jury testimony after negotiatio­ns between his team and the Justice Department over his appearance came to an impasse, people briefed on the matter said. Pence is a key potential witness in the investigat­ion, as the person Trump pressured repeatedly to thwart the certificat­ion of Joe Biden's Electoral College victory by Congress.

Trump took his pressure campaign public several times, including on Jan. 6, 2021, the day of the congressio­nal session, which Pence had a ceremonial role in overseeing. At a rally near the White House before the session began, Trump pressured Pence and then directed his supporters to go to the Capitol in protest.

The pro-Trump mob ultimately overran the Capitol building, with some chanting, “Hang Mike Pence!”

The New York Times reported earlier that the Justice Department had filed what amounted to a preemptive motion to say executive privilege did not apply, seeking to compel Pence's testimony in the matter. Before that motion was filed, Trump's lawyers had sent a letter to prosecutor­s saying they were not going to waive executive privilege with regard to Pence's testimony.

Pence has said he will try to fight the subpoena, but has indicated it will be under the “speech or debate” clause of the Constituti­on.

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