The Morning Call

What happens if Trump can’t serve?

Some steps are clearly stated, but others are murky

- By Nicholas Fandos and Nick Corasaniti

WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump’s positive coronaviru­s test has raised the possibilit­y, however remote, that he could become incapacita­ted or potentiall­y die in office.

While that outcome remains highly unlikely, and few in Washington were willing to discuss it Friday, when Trump was taken to Walter Reed National Military Medical Center for treatment, the Constituti­on and Congress long ago put in place a plan of succession to ensure that the nation is protected from adversarie­s and internal conflict when the elected president cannot serve.

The Constituti­on makes clear that the vice president is first in line to succeed the president should he or she die in office, and can step in to temporaril­y take on the duties of the presidency should the commander in chief become incapacita­ted. Vice President Mike Pence, 61, tested negative for the coronaviru­s Friday.

Other situations become far more complicate­d and are wrapped in a cloud of legal disagreeme­nt over what to do if a president cannot exercise his duties but refuses to give themup, or wins election but cannot serve, or in a case in which the president and the vice president are incapacita­ted.

What happens if Trump dies or cannot serve?

The Constituti­on and the law are clearest in instances when a president dies or must resign from office. The 25th Amendment states: “In case of the removal of the president from office or of his death or resignatio­n, the vice president shall become president.”

The ascension of a vice president under such circumstan­ces has not been that rare in United States history. A vice president has assumed the nation’s highest office because of the president’s death eight times, most recently in 1963, after the assassinat­ion of John F. Kennedy, when Lyndon Johnson became president.

In 1974, Vice President Gerald Ford became president after the resignatio­n of President Richard Nixon.

The Constituti­on leaves it to Congress to decide what should happen if the vice president also dies or cannot serve, and several laws have been enacted to lay out the contingenc­ies.

The most recent, the Presidenti­al Succession Act, was enacted in 1947 after the death of President Franklin D. Roosevelt in 1945. It was tweaked again in 2006.

The statute says the speaker of the House is next in line, followed by the president pro tempore of the Senate, and then members of the Cabinet, starting with the secretary of state.

Speaker Nancy Pelosi, 80, said Friday that she had tested negative for the virus and was confident that the right plans were in place, should they become necessary.

“Continuity of government is always in place,” she said on MSNBC. “I always say it’s a relic of the past, but nonetheles­s, they say wehave our job wehave to do, and this is what we’ll do.”

Sen. Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, is the president pro tempore in the Senate. He is 87.

What if the president is too ill to perform his duties?

Under the 25th Amendment, ratified in the 1960s to clarify presidenti­al disability and succession planning, presidents can voluntaril­y designate powers to their vice presidents if they become seriously ill or are unable to perform their duties.

If Trump became gravely ill, he could provide letters to the speaker of the House and the president pro tempore of the Senate saying he was “unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office” to transfer his powers to Pence, who would, in effect, become acting president. Trump could reclaim his full authoritie­s when he recovered.

OnFriday afternoon, as Trump departed for Walter Reed, White House spokeman Judd Deere said the president would remain fully in power.

“No transfer,” he said. “The president is in charge.”

Can the president be involuntar­ily replaced?

The 25th Amendment also allows for the forcible removal of a president, including if he is too ill to designate his authoritie­s or simply refuses to do so.

To the amendment’s authors, these were not merely wild hypothetic­als. After he had a stroke in 1919, President Woodrow Wilson spent the remainder of his term partially paralyzed and blinded; his condition was mostly kept a secret.

The amendment grants the vice president, acting together with the Cabinet or a group appointed by Congress, powers to intervene. If a majority of either group decides and informs the House and Senate that the president is “unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office,” then “the vice president shall immediatel­y assume the powers and duties of the office as acting president.”

The power has never been used, and political considerat­ions could make it difficult to unlock.

The arrangemen­t would last until the president informed Congress that “no inability exists” and he could perform his duties. If the group that removed his or her powers disagreed, the question would be left to Congress, with a requiremen­t that two

thirds of the House and Senate must agree in order to strip the elected president of power.

What happens if Trump cannot run anymore?

It gets messy, quickly.

First, the Republican National Committee would have to produce a new nominee, a process that would involve Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel and the 168 national members — three from each state and territory. But since many states have already started printing, mailing and accepting ballots, and some have begun in-person voting, the name of a newnominee could be unlikely to be printed on ballots in time for Election Day.

Then it would fall to individual states to decide how to proceed, and most have not set rules for this situation.

“It would be a question of what each state’s law says or doesn’t say about what happens in this eventualit­y, and many state laws are just silent on this possibilit­y,” said Richard Hasen, a law professor at the University of California, Irvine, who also discussed the issue on his Election Law blog. “So there may be questions about what to do.”

The question would become more complex if Trump won but was unable to serve.

Some but not all states bind their electors to vote for whoever wins the state, but even most states with binding elector laws make no mention of what could happen should a candidate die or be unable to serve.

The question could be resolved by Congress, which certifies the Electoral College vote, or it could end up in the courts.

 ?? NATI HARNIK/AP ?? Under the Constituti­on, Mike Pence would be first to succeed Donald Trump if the president were to die while in office.
NATI HARNIK/AP Under the Constituti­on, Mike Pence would be first to succeed Donald Trump if the president were to die while in office.

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