The Morning Call

Podcasts on Trump abound

Many focus on ex-president’s courtroom dramas as cases unfold across jurisdicti­ons

- By Benjamin Mullin

True crime is among the most popular genres in podcasting. One of the biggest stories in the coming months is the wave of criminal charges facing former President Donald Trump.

The result: a boomlet of podcasts dedicated to the criminal cases against him.

MSNBC, Atlanta Journal-Constituti­on, NPR, Vox Media and The First TV, an upstart conservati­ve media company, have all introduced or are about to start new shows examining Trump’s courtroom travails as he campaigns to win back the White House.

On MSNBC’s “Prosecutin­g Donald Trump,” legal commentato­rs Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord offer analysis gleaned from their years serving as prosecutor­s.

A recent episode of “Breakdown,” from the Atlanta Journal-Constituti­on, includes a newsy interview with Fani Willis, the Fulton County district attorney. Recently on “Trump’s Trials,” NPR host Scott Detrow discussed whether Trump could claim presidenti­al immunity.

The criminal charges against Trump — brought by state prosecutor­s in New York and Georgia, as well as in two federal indictment­s — involve allegation­s of election interferen­ce, his role in the Jan. 6 attack at the U.S. Capitol, his handling of sensitive documents and payments to cover up a sex scandal. Trump denies any wrongdoing.

Many of the hosts interviewe­d by The New York Times cited the newsworthi­ness of the story — a former president and a leading candidate for the office facing a legal onslaught while battling for the White House — as the impetus to go wall to wall with dedicated podcasts.

“He is the far and away front-runner to the nomination and has a real chance of being president again,” Detrow said. “That, to me, is an enormous legal story, an enormous political story.”

But there is a significan­t potential economic upside as well: capturing a slice of the $2.4 billion that advertiser­s are expected to spend on podcasts in 2024, according to the data firm eMarketer. For years, news organizati­ons have benefited financiall­y from the public’s interest in Trump — colloquial­ly known as the “Trump bump.”

“The number of users is up, but the number of people vying for those users in terms of dollars is also way up,” said Chris Balfe, founder of The First TV.

Trump’s legal challenges present an unusual twist on the true-crime genre, which often focuses on grisly murders or dramatic heists. “Serial,” a podcast from the creators of “This American Life,” was a pioneer of the category, which has also included entrants like “Exit Scam” (about a vanished cryptocurr­ency mogul) and “Last Seen,” a suspensefu­l yarn about the theft of 13 irreplacea­ble artworks from the Isabella Stewart Gardner Museum in Boston. (The New York Times Co. now owns Serial Production­s, maker of “Serial.”)

The Trump cases, by contrast, involve complicate­d questions about the Constituti­on and democracy. Adding to the complexity: They span state and federal jurisdicti­ons in Florida, Georgia, New York and Washington, D.C.

Podcasts are an ideal format to explain the nuances to the public, because they give journalist­s the time and space to examine complicate­d issues at length, Balfe said.

 ?? WULF BRADLEY/THE NEW YORK TIMES ?? The Atlanta Journal-Constituti­on dedicated the latest season of its true-crime podcast to Trump.
WULF BRADLEY/THE NEW YORK TIMES The Atlanta Journal-Constituti­on dedicated the latest season of its true-crime podcast to Trump.

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