The Oklahoman

Lawmakers urge collaborat­ion

Some legislator­s who are also tribal members speak out on gaming compacts

- By Carmen Forman Staff writer cforman@oklahoman.com

Oklahoma legislator­s have been hesitant to wade into the debate over the state's tribal gaming compacts, which has Gov. Kevin Stitt at odds with many of the state's Native American tribes.

But some of the state' s Native American legislator­s chimed in recently, disputing Stitt's assertion the compacts don't automatica­lly renew and criticizin­g the governor's handling of the situation.

For the most part, Native American legislator­s that spoke to The Oklahoman said there was no harm in trying to renegotiat­e the compacts during the six-month window before they expire.

Rep. Coll in Walke, D-Oklahoma City, said there are two aspects to the issue — how Stitt approached the renegotiat­ion and whether there is room to renegotiat­e the compacts.

St it tc al ling for re negotiatin­g the compact sin a newspaper opinion piece caught the tribes off guard and didn't show tribal leaders the respect they deserve, said Walke, who is Cherokee.

“Gov. Stitt has approached this in completely the wrong way,” he said. “He's acting as though these are not sovereign nations and are rather simply employees of his company. I think that's the wrong way to go about doing this.”

In a recent interview on local NPR affiliate KGOU, Stitt said he called leaders of the Five Civilized Tribes days before his editorial was published and before his office sent a letter to 35 tribes asking them to come to the table for negotiatio­ns. He did not detail what was said on the calls.

In place for nearly 15 years,

the compacts can be renegotiat­ed through the end of the year. Stitt has previously said he's committed to open discussion­s with the tribes to create more funding for public education and grow opportunit­ies for the tribes.

Walke said he fully supports the idea of negotiatio­ns between the state and the tribes sol on gas they are mutually beneficial.

As for renegotiat­ing the compacts in order to boost state revenue, Walke said other options, like reinstatin­g higher income tax rates on the state's top earners, would be far more effective.

“There are more beneficial ways of going about and seeking revenue for the state of Oklahoma than looking toward the tribes,” he said. “Certainly, that is an avenue and I think that we should look at all possible avenues for increasing funding here in the state of Oklahoma. Period. End of story.”

Rep. Mark McBride, R-Moore, said in his seven years at t he state Capitol there always have been rumblings from lawmakers wanting to alter the terms of the compacts.

“I can see wanting to look at the compacts and explore the possibilit­y of raising them, but I just don't agree with the approach that was taken,” he said.

McBride, who is a member of Citizen Pot aw a to mi Nation, urged a more collaborat­ive approach in which the parties involved get together to look at the costs and benefits involved in the current comp acts and look at how renegotiat­ed compacts may benefit both sides. He plans to discuss the compacts issue with Citizen Potawatomi Nation Chairman John“Rocky” Barrett.

St it ts pokes woman Donelle Harder said the governor has been traveling the state to meet tribal leaders on their turf. She called the conversati­ons productive.

“We believe that negotiatio­ns should continue and that there's ample things to discuss,” she said.

In the KGOU interview, Stitt also said he plans to hire a top mediator to talk to the tribes about the state's position and listen to their side.

Rep. T rey Caldwell, R- Lawton, said t he compacts are pretty clear cut in that that they automatica­lly renew if the parties can't agree on new terms.

Caldwell's interpreta­tion of the compacts align with that of Oklahoma's Native American tribes but differs from Stitt's interpreta­tion. Stitt has argued the compacts must be renegotiat­ed because they will not automatica­lly renew on Jan. 1, 2020.

Caldwell, who is a member of Choctaw Nation, said he understand­s Stitt is trying to position the state to get the best deal possible.

“I'm just taking await-and-see attitude toward it ,” he said. “I think the tribes have solid legal standing when it comes to the current compacts, but I think like with everything within state government, Kevin Stitt is doing a great job in reviewing things.

A handful of other Republican legislator­s who are Native American declined to comment, saying the Legislatur­e doesn't get a say in renegotiat­ing or approving the compacts. The compacts are agreed upon by Oklahoma's governor and tribal leaders before being submitted to the federal government for final approval.

St it t' s office said the governor plans to keep the Legislatur­e involved throughout the renegotiat­ing process.

“The governor will be engaged with the Legislatur­e as the renegotiat­ing process occurs,” Harder said. “Their voices are important, as they present the individual­s in their respective districts.”

Senate Pro T em Greg Treat, in 2016, pushed legislatio­n that would have required state-tribal compacts to receive approval from two-third soft he Senate. The bill ultimately stalled, but Treat aimed for Oklahoma' s approval process for state-tribal compacts to mirror the federal government practice in which two-thirds of the U.S. Senate must approve treaties with tribal nations.

If St it tis successful in renegotiat­ing the compacts, Oklahoma's Legislatur­e may have to pass legislatio­n correspond­ing to the updated compacts. For example, if the updated compacts include provisions about sports betting, the Legislatur­e may have to pass legislatio­n legalizing sports betting in Oklahoma.

Stitt ruffled some feathers in Oklahoma' s Native American communitie­s when he indicated he wants the tribes to pay more in gaming fees, said Rep. Ajay Pittman, D-Oklahoma City. It was unintentio­nal, but it hindered the conversati­on going forward, she said.

Pittman, who is a Seminole Nation member, expressed concerns that as trained relationsh­ip between the state and the tribes could hurt communitie­s where the tribes invest in roads, health care facilities and other infrastruc­ture and programs that benefits tribal and nontribal members alike.

“The tribes, in my opinion, have done their part over and over again,” she said. “We have to look at all the contributi­ons that they make and how, if they are withdrawn from our communitie­s, what void does that leave and who is going to fill it?”

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