The Reporter (Lansdale, PA)

Millennial Money

- This column was provided to The Associated Press by the personal finance website NerdWallet. Laura McMullen is a writer at NerdWallet. Email: lmcmullen@ nerdwallet.com. Twitter: @lauramcmul­len

year, Dunn told her colleague (and peer) that she wanted to consolidat­e her student loans. Go figure — her colleague had just done that and happily gave her the scoop.

“The more that we open ourselves in these kinds of conversati­ons, the more we can learn,” Lurtz says.

Maybe you learn from a friend what strategies have helped her get a raise. Maybe a friend learns about a first-time homebuyer program from you. Maybe — probably — the more chatting and learning about money you do together, the less weird the topic will feel.

I’ve started bringing up money with girlfriend­s and can report zero weirdness. For me, walks and hikes are the best time to discuss just about anything. On our judgment-free strolls and follow-up conversati­ons, we’ve covered homebuying, budgeting and saving for a wedding. It felt good to talk about something on my mind, and I suspect my friends would agree.

How to bring it up

I’m following Lurtz’s lead. Her friends know she’s a “safe person” to talk to about money, she says, “because I talk about my own situation and have made it known that my financial health is something I care about.”

To normalize money talk, bring it up yourself. Here’s how:

CHECK YOUR JUDGMENT » This is huge. Enter the discussion “from a place of love,” Dunn says. Respect your friend’s perspectiv­e, and remember that there isn’t necessaril­y a right or wrong way to handle money, Kingsbury says. To that point — no lecturing. As with all sensitive topics, err toward listening over advising.

START WITH SMALL DOSES » The goal of early conversati­ons is simply to establish that you’re game to discuss money in the future, Kingsbury says, adding that you can do that in just five minutes. Bail if the conversati­on gets heated, or your friend seems uncomforta­ble. Thank your buddy for her time, and ask to follow up later.

KEEP IT BREEZY » Broach the conversati­on privately, while you’re both sober, Kingsbury says. And start with a light topic. Maybe you want to track your spending. Does your friend do that, and does she use a particular strategy or app? Or bring up a timely subject, Lurtz says, like how you plan to tackle your taxes this week.

If a face-to-face conversati­on seems daunting, I get it. Another way I’ve hoisted my “Will Discuss Money” flag is via texts. In my friends’ group thread of dog pictures and dinner plans, I shared an article about how and why women are less likely to discuss money. We texted about how relatable the article was. Then, a friend replied with a message I should get printed and framed:

“But look at us, talking about money! Or starting to … thanks for sending!!”

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