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Investor missed on Snap but won’t buy IPO

Palihapiti­ya says he’ll take his time on Trump, calls Twitter ‘wet noodle’

- Jessica Guynn and Marco della Cava @jguynn, @marcodella­cava USA TODAY

Social Capital’s Chamath Palihapiti­ya dropped by USA TODAY’s San Francisco bureau this week, just in time to lob a few grenades at Apple, Twitter and Snap.

The former senior executive at Facebook is founder and CEO of Social Capital, a Silicon Valley venture capital firm that backs companies in areas such as health care and education. It was an investor in Yammer ( bought by Microsoft), InstaEdu ( bought by Chegg) and Slack (valued at nearly $4 billion).

Palihapiti­ya was born in Sri Lanka, grew up in Canada and graduated with a degree in electrical engineerin­g from the University of Waterloo.

He also is an owner and director of the NBA’s Golden State Warriors.

The interview has been edited for length and clarity.

He’s wait and see on what effect a Trump presidency will have on Silicon Valley: “All of these executive orders don’t get to the heart of what his real legislativ­e agenda is yet. It’s important for us to save our bullets to really understand what those things are so that we can support the things that are good and push back on the things that are not so good.

“There’s a lot of things that he can do to actually drive a lot of good allocation of capital within the U.S. I want to make sure that that happens.”

Silicon Valley needs to stop building apps and build more value: Silicon Valley has to focus on solving tough problems that help create more employment and opportunit­y in the U.S. instead of the latest “late night pizza delivery app.”

“There has been an increasing realizatio­n in Silicon Valley that we have fallen in love with a very rigid definition of success,” he said. “We should not lose sight of the core root problems, and we should put pressure on people to solve those. I think we are learning slowly that working on hard things that are not obvious are part of the formula.”

Investment­s he regrets not making: “I wish I had invested in the series A of Snapchat and Uber.

But he’s not buying into

Snap IPO: He says Snap, which has a voting rights structure in which common shareholde­rs don’t get votes, is more like Twitter, which had growing engagement but not a growing user base, than Facebook, which had both when it went public.

“When Facebook went public, they didn’t have a particular­ly strong model of governance. But it did have compoundin­g users, compoundin­g usage, and it was already a very profitable business. When you look at Twitter when it went public, it had governance and it had usage, but it didn’t have users. When you look at Snapchat, it doesn’t have governance. It doesn’t have compoundin­g growth in users, but it has compoundin­g growth in usage.

“As a risk manager, I can overlook governance if I have massively compoundin­g users and usage. But if one of those things is not there, I am not going to take the risk.

“That doesn’t mean I’ll be right. I could very well be wrong.”

Apple is a luxury brand, not a tech innovator: He says Apple is no longer a tech company but a luxury brand with pricing power.

“I can tell you the laundry list of things that Google has created in the last few years. I can tell you a laundry list of things that Amazon has created and that Facebook has created. Being a tech company has to be about a pattern of repetitive innovation.

“It’s not to take away from Apple as a brand. I love it. I love the products. As a consumer, I am deeply loyal to it. They could probably charge an extra $100 or $200 and I would buy it. They could probably make shoes and sweatpants and I would probably buy those, too. To me it’s like a modern version of Louis Vuitton, but it’s not the technologi­cal tip of the spear anymore.”

Cities hold the future of self-driving cars: “I think the thing that is under-reported is the leverage of the infrastruc­ture owner. What I mean by infrastruc­ture are the roads, the highways and the bridges, and that really comes down to cities. It is very reasonable to expect that cities will be the ones that will really pave the way. It would be insane for cities not to do that. Mayors will look like geniuses, board of supervisor­s will look like geniuses.”

But he’s not high on Twitter: “It’s kind of like a wet noodle,” he says. Will it be acquired? “It’s not clear. That’s the problem

with a wet noodle. It doesn’t have a home sometimes.”

Is Jack Dorsey the right leader for Twitter?

“You are not getting all of Jack Dorsey. You are getting half of Jack Dorsey. He hasn’t given Twitter a full shot. It’s hard to run one company well, so to run two, well, I think you see what happens. You can run one kind of well and one not so well. I just think at some point he has to do the right thing, and then you can tell. So maybe Jack has the right plan. But then he should spend all day there.” On why the Golden State Warriors are so successful: “Such a great group of people. Just great, great people. The athletic ability is the byproduct of their ability to work in a system toward a common goal. It’s a system that works.”

He’ll give away all his money before he dies ( but don’t call it philanthro­py): “I believe in charity. Philanthro­py is when you put your name around it and market it. I don’t feel comfortabl­e doing that. My wife and I give a lot, but we do it privately and we do it without our name.”

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MARCO DELLA CAVA, USA TODAY

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