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TV producer Norman Lear has new career at 94 — podcasting

- Jefferson Graham @jeffersong­raham USA TODAY

It’s never too late to start a new career. Just ask TV/movie legend Norman Lear. At age 94, the producer of such classics as All in the Family, One Day at a Time, The Jeffersons and Sanford and Son now is a podcaster, running a talk show for the first time.

All of the Above is heard on the Podcast One network, which beams its shows to Apple Podcasts and the Podcastone app. It’s a talk show run by the longtime liberal advocate and features many longtime friends and associates. Guests have included actors Amy Poehler and Martin Sheen, and this week Veep and Seinfeld star Julia Louis-Dreyfus. The show “allows me to gab,” he says. “I like talking, I like listening, I like interactio­ns.”

Even with his long career, which began by writing jokes for Dean Martin and Jerry Lewis, he never has hosted his own talk show. Until now.

At age 94, he says taking on new assignment­s gives him something to look forward to when he goes to sleep. “I like going to bed with something on my mind for the next day. I like waking up to that,” he said.

Beyond the podcast, Lear is still very active in show business. He is producing for Netflix a revival of One Day at a Time, the 1975 to 1984 series about a divorced woman starting over with her two teens in Indianapol­is. It’s now seen from the perspectiv­e of a Latino family.

As one of the few survivors in an industry that doesn’t tend to have longevity, Lear is experienci­ng a new revival of interest. GQ just called him “The Comedy Godfather of Television,” PBS gave him the full “American Masters” treatment, and he’s featured in an upcoming June 5 HBO documentar­y about other 90-yearold show biz legends, including

Carl Reiner, Betty White, Mel Brooks and Dick Van Dyke.

Norm Pattiz, founder of Podcastone, says getting Lear to start podcasting “is a huge deal for us. He’s an inspiratio­n to all of us,” showing how to continue to be active as a senior, and as a Hollywood institutio­n “he’s a national treasure. Who wouldn’t want to talk to Norman? He has incredible access.”

All of the Above debuted in May, and it’s early, but audience wise it’s seeing downloads in the “mid six figures, and growing every week,” Pattiz says.

After dabbling in radio, TV and movies, the medium of podcasting was a new one for Lear. “I didn’t even know what a podcast was,” when it was suggested, and he hasn’t listened to any since he started the show.

But he does love getting notificati­ons on his iPhone, and like many of us, grabs for it every morning, primarily to check in with his kids, who live on the East Coast. He has Apple TV and Roku, but he’s not a fan of binge watching or viewing on streaming TV. “I’d like the curtain to come down and everyone to come back next week. It makes for better shows,” he says.

But that’s not the way the world is now, he admits.

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JEFFERSON GRAHAM, USA TODAY “I like going to bed with something on my mind for the next day,” Norman Lear says.

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