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Chip Gaines: ‘Stupid stuff’ is key to success

HGTV star says he learned it’s OK to ‘just go for it’

- Mary Cadden

Chip Gaines gets down to business in his new book, Capital Gaines: The Smart Things I’ve Learned From Doing Stupid Stuff (Thomas Nelson) out Oct. 17. His successes are well-known, both as co-host with his wife, Joanna, for HGTV’s Fixer Upper and as coauthor of their book, The Magnolia Story, which debuted at No. 2 on USA TODAY’s Best-Selling Books list and has sold more than 1.3 million copies.

But successes don’t come without some failure, and Gaines opens up about his own personal ups and downs as a “serial entreprene­ur,” in his book.

USA TODAY checked in with Gaines to discuss the book and future plans:

Q Capital Gaines: Smart Things I Learned Doing Stupid Stuff is a book on your success as an entreprene­ur. How important would you say “doing stupid stuff ” is to your success?

A It’s all about perspectiv­e with things you consider “stupid.” For example, I wouldn’t have learned some of the hard lessons without having made a few dumb mistakes first. But instead of letting myself drown in a failure, I’ve never given up. I think it’s important for any entreprene­ur to learn early on that failure is just another opportunit­y for a comeback.

Q Do you ever really get to a point where you stop doing stupid stuff ?

A No way! I’m constantly giving myself room to fail, and some would say I tend to take a riskier approach on things than most people would. Sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn’t. Either way I just go for it. And, you know, I figure it out along the way. But I’ll admit, as I get older I do tend to shy away from the riskier things that may land me in the ER. Bones don’t heal as quickly as they once did.

Q How was the experience of writing this book different from writing your and Joanna’s The Magnolia Story?

A The Magnolia Story is really about how Jo and I started this thing and the transforma­tion of the Magnolia brand from the beginning of our marriage until Fixer Upper took off. But this book I wanted to write for people who find themselves in a place where they’re scared to take a chance and make the jump — whatever that looks like in their own lives. Folks who are just looking for someone, somewhere to tell them they can do it — they can work hard and chase their dreams. I hope this book offers some insight into how I went about things that might be helpful to people.

Q Who is the person you would want to read this book? Basically, who did you write it for?

A Pretty much myself 20 years ago. I would have loved to have read a book like this when I was in my early 20s, when I could have used someone to show me or tell me to just go for it — knowing that it was OK to fail as long as I learned from my mistakes, kept my head up and went after it.

Q The chapter you are releasing features you on a harrowing journey to Mexico to learn to speak Spanish fluently. Do you speak fluently now?

A Don’t I wish. Though I will admit that I’ve picked up quite a bit of it just in conversati­on over the years. It’s still on my bucket list!

Q Are you at work now on any new projects? Anything you can share?

A Jo and I are entreprene­urs at heart — we love having our hands in a lot of different things, and we are always thinking up new projects. Our restaurant, Magnolia Table, is currently under constructi­on. This place is something of an iconic restaurant here in Waco that closed down not too long ago, and we are excited about the opportunit­y to bring it back to life, so to speak.

We also just launched our second vacation rental, Hillcrest Estate. This was a fun one because this is a historical home that Jo and I have admired for a while now, so for us to be able to fix it up and give Waco visitors a place to enjoy and feel at home in, is something we’re proud of and really excited about.

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PHOTOS BY MAGNOLIA Gaines, co-host of HGTV’s Fixer Upper, tells readers not to worry about failures.
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Chip and Joanna Gaines.

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