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Fauci says he’s staying despite the criticism

Has a ‘complicate­d’ relationsh­ip with Trump

- Nicholas Wu

WASHINGTON – Top infectious disease expert Anthony Fauci batted away criticism from President Donald Trump and his allies and made it clear he did not think he would be fired despite a “complicate­d” relationsh­ip with the president.

Trump’s allies have publicly criticized Fauci and Coronaviru­s Task Force head Deborah Birx but sent mixed signals Wednesday after the White House disavowed an op-ed from trade adviser Peter Navarro including comments about Fauci, and Trump and Vice President Mike Pence defended Fauci.

In an interview with CBS’ Norah O’Donnell published in Instyle, Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said he did not “see any terminatio­n in the near future” since he viewed his career in terms of his energy and effectiven­ess.

“And right now, with all due modesty, I think I’m pretty effective,” he said. “I certainly am energetic. And I think everybody thinks I’m doing more than an outstandin­g job.”

Fauci said “in some respects,” he has a “very good” relationsh­ip with Trump. It was “collegial” when they saw each other often, he said, but “I don’t see him very much anymore.”

Asked why, Fauci said he thought the “tenor” of the White House shifted to “reopening” the economy, making economic advisers more prominent.

Access to Trump, Fauci said, is “through the vice president,” who leads the Coronaviru­s Task Force

Fauci was interviewe­d by O’Donnell in the magazine after she said “CBS Evening News” had not been able to bring Fauci on air since April 15.

The doctor declined to comment on whether the Trump administra­tion had been “muzzling” him, but when asked a similar question by The Atlantic in an interview published Wednesday, Fauci replied, “I can’t make a comment on that, but I think you know what the answer to that is.”

In an interview with Reuters published Wednesday, Fauci said he did not let the attacks on him bother him.

“What we’re doing with vaccines, what we’re doing with therapeuti­cs, what we’re doing with clinical trials is the real substance,” Fauci said.

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