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What spending cuts are on the GOP’s wish list?

Details scarce as party jockeys for power

- Candy Woodall

WASHINGTON – House Speaker Kevin McCarthy left his first White House visit with confidence that he and President Joe Biden could negotiate a spending deal, but the real test may come in negotiatio­ns with his own Republican conference.

McCarthy, who had to bargain with hardline conservati­ves to win his speaker bid after 15 rounds of voting, leads a fractious caucus where some members are willing to gamble with the nation’s credit score and global economy to try and get the federal spending cuts they want.

But what those cuts are, nobody seems to know.

“Their writ large approach seems to be take the hostage first and then they’ll figure out later what they want,” Rep. Brendan Boyle, D-Pa., ranking member of the House Budget Committee, told USA TODAY.

Will Social Security and Medicare be cut?

McCarthy and other Republican leaders have said cuts to Social Security and Medicare should be off the table in debt limit and spending negotiatio­ns, a pivot from their midterm campaigns when they said everything was on the table.

House GOP Whip Tom Emmer – tasked with the big role of corralling or “whipping” the votes – said he expected McCarthy would assure Biden Wednesday the country would not default on its debt and Social Security and Medicare wouldn’t be part of the negotiatio­ns.

The president and McCarthy getting together in the White House was the “responsibl­e” thing to do and would produce a “more sensible result,” Emmer said.

What spending cuts do Republican­s want?

Though Republican­s have tried to reassure voters – and the markets – that they will not send the U.S. economy careening toward collapse, they have been vague about how they will cut spending to FY2022 levels without touching entitlemen­ts.

When asked what spending cuts the House GOP wants, Emmer focused on McCarthy’s meeting with Biden as a positive sign the two could negotiate.

McCarthy didn’t give Biden specific spending cuts or levels of spending cuts the House GOP would accept, he told reporters at the Capitol Wednesday night after their meeting.

After facing numerous questions in recent days about spending cuts, Emmer said in a statement Wednesday night, “Democrats and the media want to fearmonger about spending cuts. House Republican­s are talking about spending reforms.”

He said the GOP is working on a “responsibl­e, reasonable and sensible” budget “so we’re not mortgaging our children and grandchild­ren’s futures.”

The House budget is due April 15, and Majority Leader Steve Scalise said the caucus is working to meet that deadline.

Some of the conservati­ve think tanks in Washington, D.C., influencin­g government spending, such as the Heritage Foundation and the Center for Renewing America, have proposed billions worth of cuts each to Defense, Housing and Urban Developmen­t, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and Health and Human Services.

Even with billions in cuts to those programs, to get to FY2022 budget levels without touching Social Security and Medicare seems nearly impossible, Democrats said.

“The math is nowhere close to adding up,” Boyle said.

What happened with the last debt ceiling fight?

McCarthy was specific about one thing: “We’re not going to pass a clean debt ceiling.”

That view could lead to a five-month political fight and lower the nation’s credit rating, though he said he thought the two sides could reach an agreement “long before” a default.

Democrats say if history shows anything, a GOP-led spending fight with a Democratic president could work in Democrats’ favor.

Boyle pointed out former President Bill Clinton was hammered in the 1994 midterms and handed House Democrats their first loss in 40 years. He started to make a comeback in a debt ceiling fight with Speaker Newt Gingrich and won reelection in 1996 by 8 points.

When former President Barack Obama’s approval rating was underwater in 2011, he made a comeback in a debt ceiling fight. The U.S. had its first credit rating downgrade. Obama was reelected a year later.

“You’d think Republican­s would learn from history,” Boyle said. “Each time they lost in the court of public opinion and set up the next Democratic victory.”

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