2020 newsmakers: Remembering Ginimbi
Genius was seeking God: Bishop Motondo
The late Genius ‘Ginimbi’ Kadungure was arguably the biggest newsmaker of 2020 in Zimbabwe, albeit through his death.
H-Metro remembers him through this interview with Bishop Charles Motondo (BCM) of Grace Faith Ministries — the man the late Ginimbi confided in spiritually.
H-Metro’s TAKAWIRA ‘PHOTOVET’ DAPI sat down with him to talk about Ginimbi’s spiritual life leading to his death.
He speaks about the juju claims, what may happen in the aftermath of his death and how Ginimbi was a changed man seeking God. Read on . . .
Photovet: You were the late Genius Ginimbi Kadungure’s Bishop and confidante as evidenced by the chats you have shown us. There must be some things you shared with Ginimbi that the world does not know?
BCM: Ah, one thing that I have mentioned before is that, Ginimbi was now more about wanting to do for God. Really wanting to be a different person, really wanting to be in a certain standard. But sometimes everybody has their weaknesses.
Like certain weaknesses that people may have seen on him, that people labelled him on his parties. His lifestyle and all that, it is not something that he really wanted to be (labelled) like that.
There are certain things that people need to understand that, Ginimbi got money when he was very young, and there is one thing there to do with maturity as well. Being young, surrounded by young people who just want flashy, some of them coming there with their own interests hence they do not give you proper advice because they will be afraid to be sidelined.
So he had to live his life the way he lived it. He had a nightclub. Being in that environment, worse having everything he wanted and needed at any minute of his life time, again knowing he was the owner of all that.
And because sometimes he portrayed himself drinking, being this and being that, and having such things at the back, people believed and labelled him that this is just the kind of a man he is, but he was a man who really wanted God closer to him.
He was seeking God, he was running after God. I am telling you this because I have seen it. I have seen it because you get a lot of people who have got a lot of money but they do not have time for God. But Ginimbi was coming here often and really showing that he is really in need of God, like I said, he was now wanting to be a really different person.
“But the things that he was surrounded with were not easy for him to detach himself from because he had these people who wanted this kind of life hence it was not easy for these people to release him to God. But he really wanted to detach from them, to bring another face but the society he was involved in would not leave him alone. But what I can only say is that God knows the best.
Photovet: So what exactly transpired in your meetings with Ginimbi which made you firmly believe that Ginimbi was now finally seeking God?
BCM: Right, there are many messages that I showed you that he was sending to me like, pray for me please, pray for my protection, please pray for my businesses, I now need God to help me, I really want to live a different life, I now need God’s help, sometimes I do not want to do this but the surrounding and all that, people may think I am like that but I am not that, I have time for my family and I am always home, if I am not doing my business I am here.
And people know him, saw him coming, saw him having the willingness to participate to the things of God. That was a clear and tangible sign that Ginimbi was now detaching from the social life to God, I showed you my chats with him up to the day he passed on. I gave you that proof.
He called me many times, he would inform me about wherever he was from Zimbabwe, SA, Dubai, Botswana, Zambia etc, he called needing prayers from all these places.
Many men do not tell even their wives about their movements, but
he was telling me about all of them showing that he was now really needing God’s prayers, he was feeling it that he must come to God.
Photovet: What gave Ginimbi faith to keep on following you and seeking for your prayers?
BCM: What gave him (Ginimbi) faith, first of all, it was the death of his brother, I prophesied about the death of his brother, seven days before his brother passed on.
Photovet: What is your comment to claims that he used juju/ muti in acquiring his riches?
BCM: What I know is that, and I can say that boldly, Ginimbi did not have any snake, or any muti/juju that was making or multiplying any money in his house.
The young man was just a courageous young man, he had the boldness to do what others were afraid to do and he was connected. That connection made him who he became till his unfortunate passing on.
And so many people who were not trading with him, they had to judge him from afar that he had touched something, he had muti/ juju or a snake or sticks like that for him to be rich, have money.
If he had those kind of things, then those people or those kind of societies do have conditions, they would give him conditions like he should not use that money for churches.
But you will agree with me that Ginimbi was associated with so many men of God here in Zimbabwe that you know. If you can go on social media you will witness them posting photos together, eating, drinking and spending time together, and all those men of God did not see that witchcraft for them to be associating with him continuously?
Why were all these people associated with Ginimbi? Why now some people want to say, ‘ Ginimbi was social, Ginimbi was a magician, I do not believe in all that. In my association with Ginimbi, I do not have any sign of all those allegations in my spiritual or prophetic capacity that Ginimbi was ritualistic.
Photovet: Some feared the death was planned, your views on that?
BCM: Now, I want you to understand that death is something that no one can escape. No one can escape it because, it can come for both young or old persons.
Ginimbi died at his age after accomplishing his mission. In the family people die, that doesn’t mean that he was using ritual money or anything.
There are certain families here in Zimbabwe, not talking of those beyond borders, whose people die every day, and they are very poor families, no one is rich there.
Photovet: Is there going to be peace in the Ginimbi family and business circles after his death?
BCM: Peace comes where you receive peace. Peace comes when you need peace and peace comes from God. If they put God in the centre of everything, peace will be there, peace will reign. I do not see any bad future when they do it as a family.
Ginimbi had his life, even in the family, there is always a battle or battles when someone is still alive such as he was in. There were already some battles, some frictions, maybe in the mother or father side, maybe some relative who were very far. And when that person dies, some of those relatives want to get closer because of some left properties or goods, then obviously, it will not be easy for peace to reign.
Everyone will come with their own agendas, so I am just praying for peace, and I pray that God give them peace because in every family in these situations, peace does not come easily.
Prophetically, I see not everybody coming, is coming to sympathise . . . people are coming with different intentions, because when Ginimbi was alive, they were not close, they were far.
Now that they are close, they now have intentions, and those intentions are the ones to create clashes, that is why I am praying in advance for God to establish peace.
Photovet: When exactly are these misunderstandings coming?
BCM: These clashes can take one day, can take two days, three days, depending on their position, if only they implicate God on the matter. It is only God who knows. If is God implicate in the matter, it will not take time.
Photovet: Message to those around Ginimbi’s family?
BCM: The message to all around Ginimbi is, spiritually, the door has now been opened. Why spiritual door, why, in such dates? A lot of controversy has been raised from here and there. I heard there were some sangomas who came pretending to be the ones that gave him money or whatever that he had.
The fact that people are not hearing from God, or hearing from the prophetic voice of God, there is a problem because, if you are not hearing from the right source, those evil people are coming with their conditions and they are supposed to give to you because they believe you are part of it, then there is a war spiritually and they are not going to sustain what has been left.
So, prophetically, I will advise them to abide by the proper instructions, to get a proper direction of what to do now, in order to block all these doors that opened during the funeral time and his resting moment.
Some people are to now come claiming that they have done this, they have done this, they are owed this, some accusing and claiming many things like they have done this ritual, those people are already having access one way or another, those are the things I am talking about here.
I pray that God will straightening everything, so that it defends the family from the enemy’s plans.´